This Game makes me want to comfort eat.

[Cortechs]

Trion bit off more than they could chew. Period.

And now as consumers, we've been left holding the proverbial bag, with expectations unmet & a game so void of content that a 10 yr old could complete this game in a few short weeks. [No offense to 10 yr olds]

I was damn good at games when I was 10. Not sure what your issue was.

[Nerf Err Thang]

Let us assume that the people posting here are a vocal minority. This is not detract from the issues they post. Nor does it reflect the number of people that have left because of the issues.

When the game first released, anything negative was met with a slue of posts from fanboys attempting to shame them into silence. Over the last 4 month, I have noticed that many that have posted issues have left the game, many of the fanboys are now posting about the same issues they berated others for posting, and fanboys...well, they are few and far between.

My point is that the game is not just failing to retain the RPG or the TPS crowd, but both. They are attempting to marry 2 diametrically opposed gaming ideas, and failing at both. It is better to do one thing well then many things poorly as can be seen by the critics and player reviews.

Many of the issues you claim Trion is listening too were known and discussed prior to the game even being released. Others are the direct result of Trion attempting to milk the players for more money buy attempting to force them to buy Bits. Not to mention that number of issues Trion has created by forcing out bug ridden patches while broke more then it fixed.

Trion had A LOT of time to work out the issues. It is called development. If they needed more time, they should not have released a not-so-polished turd. You can not expect the players to be patient when Trion was obviously not patient in their cash grab. Trion Defiance has basically went out of their way to make every wrong decision possible, and even if we assume they have somehow mangically turned a 180, you can not blame the players for not just being skeptical but being impatient. After all, Trion did not wait to take their money.

Not to brown nose, but I enjoy reading your post. They're what I want to say but in a calmer less vulgar way.

[Kleptobrainiac]

I was damn good at games when I was 10. Not sure what your issue was.

Yea... I probably should have said 5 or 6. Or added the condition of Down Syndrome.

[XxSTMELVINxX]

i still have the email they sent me when they said they had worked out all the issues from the beta. some months later, we still have the same reload bugs, server disconnects, over-powering enemies, etc. and really, it doesnt do us any good to complain about the issues because whenever we do, the threads get deleted. i would rather see the dlc keep getting pushed back in order to finally fix the issues than play new content that is completely bugged.

[WarHoundZero]

Everything that they've done shows that they're trying to bleed money out of you. Hell I'll give you three major examples nerfing the amount of keys you receive from roadside emergencies nerfing the amount of arkfalls that could be done and degrading the loot you receive from bosses. These two things took away major ways for people to receive better gear without having to buy boxes. Trion is in trouble as of right now because they can't figure out a way to make money and attract new players. Honestly if they would properly price the cosmetic items and offer bundle discounts for the in game shop they would be in a whole better place. This game imho won't last longer than three years....if that if they don't do something by either making it fully free to play with an optional sub that gets you a free amount of maxed out keys monthly that offers you a discount on everything you buy from the store.

[Rakshasa]

I think the minority has shifted to happy gamers who post less and less.
People have no other recourse to complain and while some do not do it in a positive way. Others do attempt to make feedbac polite and detailed.

In truth, the minority is the players who even come to the forums at all. The vast majority of the player base never sets foot here, they're simply playing and enjoying the game. That's the case with most every online game -- the forums tend to be a small, though vocal, minority.

In my view, the minority of this forum is the handful of semi-trolling regulars whose names we all know -- people who clearly dislike the game and/or developers, but still feel compelled to stay. They post the same negativity here over and over, while also doing their best to derail other threads that aren't negative. They are here every day, spreading the hate as if it's their job. Their post counts are in the hundreds, even though some of them haven't even played in months, and some no longer even own the game.

I don't pretend to know their motivations, or why they act as if they have some kind of personal stake or vested interest in hoping a video game fails. Maybe they simply don't have anything better to do, or don't own any games they actually like -- at least not well enough to satisfy them and occupy their time in a more rewarding and enjoyable way. I've played lots of games over the years that I didn't happen to care for personally, but it would never have occurred to me to not only hang around them, but to try to wage some kind of negative propaganda campaign as a part-time job. As a gamer, that just seems like a sad way for someone to spend their time, when so many other options are available.

[Winterborn]

In truth, the minority is the players who even come to the forums at all. The vast majority of the player base never sets foot here, they're simply playing and enjoying the game. That's the case with most every online game -- the forums tend to be a small, though vocal, minority.

In my view, the minority of this forum is the handful of semi-trolling regulars whose names we all know -- people who clearly dislike the game and/or developers, but still feel compelled to stay. They post the same negativity here over and over, while also doing their best to derail other threads that aren't negative. They are here every day, spreading the hate as if it's their job. Their post counts are in the hundreds, even though some of them haven't even played in months, and some no longer even own the game.

I don't pretend to know their motivations, or why they act as if they have some kind of personal stake or vested interest in hoping a video game fails. Maybe they simply don't have anything better to do, or don't own any games they actually like -- at least not well enough to satisfy them and occupy their time in a more rewarding and enjoyable way. I've played lots of games over the years that I didn't happen to care for personally, but it would never have occurred to me to not only hang around them, but to try to wage some kind of negative propaganda campaign as a part-time job. As a gamer, that just seems like a sad way for someone to spend their time, when so many other options are available.

As you can see by my post count I'm one of the people that happily spends my time in the game playing away and rarely steps out into the forums, but i do spend a little time reading them just to keep abreast of changes and such. Just wanted to give a double thumbs up to this quote as it covers my thoughts and feelings exactly. Well said.

[Elgand]

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Although your confusion is somewhat shared by me, I have come to understand better why those people stick around. Personally I have stopped playing Defiance regularly. The game held my interest until ~4200 ego, and having 0 pursuits to work towards as well as content that has become stale no longer entices me to log on.

But I still visit the forums, and although I do not spread nearly the level of "Doom and Gloom" as other, I understand why someone might. If they comment on the negative portions of the game maybe the developers will notice a trend and make changes accordingly. It may be wishful thinking on their part, and I agree that their approach leaves a lot to be desired, but it is better than only seeing positive threads from people still in the honeymoon portion of Defiance.

The only thing that truly disappoints me about Defiance is the promise of 5 DLC's before the end of the year for all season pass owners. I purchased the season pass, and judging by their first DLC release will not be seeing 1-2 of those promised DLC's for quite some time.

Also OT, your title says it all when it comes to my current mentality regarding Defiance. Logging in to see that the only new outfits and vehicles in the store are re-skins is truly depressing. I bought $50 worth of bits when they were giving double bits, and have only used ~2000 of the 10k purchased due to the store having nearly no unique options. The last outfit I have truly liked was the Star Trek esque Field Engineer outfit.

[Cortechs]

In my view, the minority of this forum is the handful of semi-trolling regulars whose names we all know -- people who clearly dislike the game and/or developers, but still feel compelled to stay. They post the same negativity here over and over, while also doing their best to derail other threads that aren't negative. They are here every day, spreading the hate as if it's their job. Their post counts are in the hundreds, even though some of them haven't even played in months, and some no longer even own the game.

Yep, which is why I don't bother "defending" the game. The trolls are allowed to run rampant, so I don't feed them.

[psybr1]

I have played this game since beta and rarely was booted out as often as i am now.im still playing because i hope the problems get fixed.as it is now after getting kicked off four times in a row i go beta test ffxvi for awhile and come back.i just wonder what my ego score would be if i actually got to play all the way through the arkfalls ive been booted out of. i still like the game but before i put more money into bits i have to be sure the game will last not to mention improve.