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    Attention Developers... You might want to Read This...

    I understand your want and need to respond to what you hear a lot of people on the forums speak about.

    But...

    Games are meant to be fun and enjoyable.

    This Game is an open world Adventure Game. With aliens, monsters, thugs, and other players. We have Campaign, co-ops, Arkfalls, PvP, pursuits, and random engagements. Lots to do, well done.

    I know that you're trying to appease the crowd with adjustments. But don't forget why we play video games in the first place.

    To relax, have fun, be competitive.

    We all know what real weapons, & equipment do in real life. So we expect to see a resemblance of that in the games we play. We want to be able to do things we can't in real life. I.E. blowing up people with rockets, running them over with cars, & sniping enemies are just a few.

    So when a game doesn't match those expectations, well... It just isn't fun.

    Regardless of what the feedback is. You need to realize that most of these players aren't your typical PvP. If they were, they'd be swallowed in Halo, Call of Duty, or ARM4. They're RPGers.

    With that being said...

    Gamers want to feel important, powerful & respected.

    A sniper headshot, should kill...
    A rocket should obliterate...
    A automatic gun should shred...
    A car should kill...
    Enemies should die easily...

    Difficulty should be increased with a smart AI enemy & lots of them. Not Enemy Hit Points.

    Honestly, the only time in the game that I've shot a gun and been impressed and was like, Yeah take that! Was when I used some of your Power/Special Weapons.


    There's a Reason why people LOVED games like, God of War, Batman Arkham City, & Halo


    Because they KICKED ENEMIES BUTTS!!! In those games. And smiled the whole time, while doing it.



    And Message to all players. Defiance IS NOT an MMO! This is a SHOOTER! Get your facts straight!
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot View Post

    A sniper headshot, should kill...
    A rocket should obliterate...
    A automatic gun should shred...
    A car should kill...
    Enemies should die easily...
    These things happen already in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    These things happen already in the game.
    What game? Lol

    Show me one shot kill with any gun in your inventory. Let alone with 10 players beside you.
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    Yes guns, cars, and violence kills fast in RL. If you want that in a game to have fun and relax play the GTA games or Saints Row.

    People also want challenge, it's not fun to just flip the I win button on and be done with the game. MMO games are becoming easy mode and it's not just fun, I say bring on the vulge, put more Nim type bosses in the game, make the arkfalls harder. Revolting Hellbugs is the best arkfall in terms of challenge, the others are simple and easy mode to win. Give the players something to really work for and team up on.

    Though one thing that would be fun if you want more realism. Have the cars show damage and blow up when hitting the trees or blowing your suspension out when landing off jumping off a mountain .... why the hell can a challenger go off road mountain climbing anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs View Post
    Yes guns, cars, and violence kills fast in RL. If you want that in a game to have fun and relax play the GTA games or Saints Row.

    People also want challenge, it's not fun to just flip the I win button on and be done with the game. MMO games are becoming easy mode and it's not just fun, I say bring on the vulge, put more Nim type bosses in the game, make the arkfalls harder. Revolting Hellbugs is the best arkfall in terms of challenge, the others are simple and easy mode to win. Give the players something to really work for and team up on.

    Though one thing that would be fun if you want more realism. Have the cars show damage and blow up when hitting the trees or blowing your suspension out when landing off jumping off a mountain .... why the hell can a challenger go off road mountain climbing anyway?
    Oh I love a challenge don't get me wrong.

    If you beat me, I'll accept it.

    Mistake number one for every developer...

    Substitute diffifficulty with Massive Hit Points and Slaying Weapons instead of Enemies AI, and massive numbers to oppose.

    Difficulty should be increased with a smart AI enemy & lots of them. Not Enemy Hit Points.
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot View Post
    What game? Lol

    Show me one shot kill with any gun in your inventory. Let alone with 10 players beside you.
    I have a sniper x4.0 to crit hits. And that adds up from an single roll of x1.15 and a blue laced extender thats x1.15

    And that's more then enough to one shot enemies with a headshot. And if not because of some of the special class ones are a bit tougher...well that's where perks come in.

    Hunters stance + shadow strike + plus the x4.0 crit sniper kills dark matter or tankers to the face in one hit.

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    I don't understand how we can crit shielded ppl tbh. Wouldn't the shields like stop it before it hits their face?

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    Why is it all these post contain "We would like..." its YOU that want it people need to stop this crap

    You do understand that if you get you list of 5 the AI will also get it so while you might enjoy being killed driving to an ark fall i wouldn't enjoy being randomly sniped by a raider. So i wonder if you want all this whats the point of having a shield then lets remove that to make one guy happy.

    If you want realism pick up Arma 2 or Arma 3 Alpha that will give you everything you want and more

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    I was using my sniper rifle to one-shot mutants this morning in Mount Tam for the contract. I have also popped the heads off of Mattocks and taken out Raiders with head shots. I think anything above these all have shields and will not one-shot.


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    Both single shot sniper rifles and multiple shotguns can do in excess of 5000 damage per trigger pull which is enough to one shot many things, including other players. Many players and enemies have defenses set up to protect themselves from that however so it's not going to work in every scenario. If it did, this game wouldn't be a lot of fun as weapon choice would be meaningless.

    Single player games work well with building a Mary Sue. MMOs do not.

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