Guns Don't Nerf Players, Players Nerf Players

[physics]

Does anyone really use SAWs in PvP, not so much.
So let's assume the compliant is strictly based on PvE
My question isn't why nerf it, my question is who cares?
What does an overpowered gun get you in PvE?

1) Top of the boards on Major and minor Ark Falls.
Issue: nothing. You receive no reward for being at the top of anything.
2) Top of the board in Co Op
Issue: nothing. You receive no bonus or better loot again for high DPS
3) It helps me melt baddies so fast I don't have to even try. Now what?
Solution: Ignore your fixation on nerfs and plead with Trion to make a difficult setting called "asleep at the controller" which would be about five clicks down from very easy.

News Flash. This game lacks difficulty just as much as content. I purposely try and play the worst guns in the game because their is literally nothing else amusing to the even modestly skilled gamer.
I would like to see instances that actually require tactic and team work. So maybe the SAW guy actually attracts so much agro that the NPCs melt him unless he has a Bmg guy backing him up.

All this talk around these boards about Big bad NIm (chuckle), nerfing infectors, and crying about SAWs has taught me one valuable lesson.
Trion created a product so drenched in the influence of this COD era of no skill accessibility, solo kill streakers, and the ego stroking mass of top of the board kill ****** that they almost single handedly revolutionized the MMO by destroying the very idea of it.

The game is simple, mindless and requires the skill of an ape and the teamwork of no one.
Nerf what? Nerf who?
You...

[acert assassin]

thank you about time someone fought back at the nerf whiners.

[The_Pikey]

I use a SAW on the rare occasion that I play PVP - everyday I play less and less PvP I'm almost at the stage of giving up on all PvP puruits and contracts. I must say I would like to see a dramatic increase in difficulity, I'm not exaggerating when I say I have yet to encounter a situation where I felt it would be nice to have somebody helping me with any of the pursuits or episodes - even the volge, when they where introduced to the game I cleared the episode with out even having to self revive and that's taking them on with no thoughts of tactics going 4 to 1 in their favour. The games that hold my attention the longest are the ones that thrash me like a red haired step child.

[physics]

I use a SAW on the rare occasion that I play PVP - everyday I play less and less PvP I'm almost at the stage of giving up on all PvP puruits and contracts. I must say I would like to see a dramatic increase in difficulity, I'm not exaggerating when I say I have yet to encounter a situation where I felt it would be nice to have somebody helping me with any of the pursuits or episodes - even the volge, when they where introduced to the game I cleared the episode with out even having to self revive and that's taking them on with no thoughts of tactics going 4 to 1 in their favour. The games that hold my attention the longest are the ones that thrash me like a red haired step child.

I honestly and truly bought this game thinking I would need help to accomplish things. Or help other people for that matter. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed this game and it's potential but if this is the future of console MMO I may not keep buying. If I wanted to further my fiat currency populated in a world of real people ignoring each other I would be better off becoming a day trader.

[dominad]

I use a saw in pvp oh well they nerfed it. I do not agree but don't care enough either way. Will just switch to an AR now or try and SMG. Not much to motivate continued playing now though.

[physics]

I use a saw in pvp oh well they nerfed it. I do not agree but don't care enough either way. Will just switch to an AR now or try and SMG. Not much to motivate continued playing now though.

The hope that dlc actually expands the scope and challenge. I play because I find the ghostbusters guns (bmgs) very novel. A state puff ark fall would be epic. 50 plus ark hunters crossing streams and being covered in liquid marshmallow post kill shot.

[Midori Oku]

Although I don't really want to see my 476 damage (non crit, or Radiation nano applied) go away, I'm not too upset about it...........yet. As long as it does not make the LMG class completely useless compared to AR's, I'll be fine. I just hope it's no more than a 10% decrease.

Edit: As for getting 1st place in arkfalls, I leave that up to my Wolfhound! :P

[physics]

Edit: As for getting 1st place in arkfalls, I leave that up to my Wolfhound! :P

And what does first place get u?
Nothing
I got first place enough times that I don't even try anymore.
what is the incentive?
Which leads us back to- there isn't a nerf or buff in the game that matters in PvE
Your rewarded the same as the guy who stands there and fires one shot from a North Star the entire arkfall

[Codename Quincy]

So maybe the SAW guy actually attracts so much agro that the NPCs melt him unless he has a Bmg guy backing him up.

wait...you wanna turn this into one of 'those' games ? no thanks. the heal/tank/dps thing is just tired. as far as the saw goes, i think it does need a nerf. i think it should be an accuracy nerf tho. as a former door kicker the thought of someone firing a 30 lbs machine gun from the shoulder with that kind of accuracy is kinda funny.

most ppl either know saws are over the top, or they think they have a special acumen for virtual weaponry. i can't remember the last time i did a co-op and there wasn't at least one saw. all the different weapons in the game and the one i see the most is the saw. i don't wonder why.

[The_Pikey]

I honestly and truly bought this game thinking I would need help to accomplish things. Or help other people for that matter. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed this game and it's potential but if this is the future of console MMO I may not keep buying. If I wanted to further my fiat currency populated in a world of real people ignoring each other I would be better off becoming a day trader.

Same here, I bought this game hoping to get away from what I call the "C.O.D syndrome", and yes there would be some PvP but it would be a very minor aspect of the game - an after thought almost. But it seems now that the few - and it is a very small minority of the defiance players who play PvP just look at how long it can take you to find a match, are dictating what happens to everybodies game, I really wish these children would go back to getting off on C.O.D, thankfully the new C.O.D is out soon so hopefully these kids will disappear in a few months never to return - I have all chat settings muted because of them, they are that bad and that self centered, I have heard kids throw tantrums during arkfalls because they weren't left to get the kill shot on the "arkfall bosses".

wait...you wanna turn this into one of 'those' games ? no thanks. the heal/tank/dps thing is just tired. as far as the saw goes, i think it does need a nerf. i think it should be an accuracy nerf tho. as a former door kicker the thought of someone firing a 30 lbs machine gun from the shoulder with that kind of accuracy is kinda funny.

most ppl either know saws are over the top, or they think they have a special acumen for virtual weaponry. i can't remember the last time i did a co-op and there wasn't at least one saw. all the different weapons in the game and the one i see the most is the saw. i don't wonder why.

My dog carries more than 30lbs when we go for walks, and our average walk is 5 miles, and I have seen some extremely accurate shots pulled of with LMGs on and off of firing ranges over the years. Though I think the "nerfs" are pathetic and nothering but catering to a group of gamers Trion have no hope of retaining - the C.O.D kids, I honestly don't care enough about it to make any sort of commotion over it, like I said I play PvP less and less nowadays.