Trion Between a rock and a hard place

[Reverend Blood]

[Maitreakow]

First off:Hype means schtako!

Second: It's Tidal Wave. Not title wave.

Third: They have been showing stuff off. Facebook has the concept art for weapons being posted every couple days. They had a build running the DLC at E3.

Fourth: How can you run a business without being able to spell Corporate? My guess, you're really a 20 something trying to sound big and bad on the intertubes because it's the cool thing to do.

Finally, I'm glad they aren't showing everything coming up right off the bat. I would love to be able to find stuff on my own. I saw a Monolith arkfall in a video.....I nearly jizzed my pants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

[CptBadger]

Ever heard the phrase "Vocal Minority"?

Ever heard about metacritic ?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/defiance

[Satsuki]

I know everything I need to know about the DLC. It will have Castithians, I can change my existing character to one, it will have charge weapons, Volge Sieges and Monolith arkfalls. That's way more than sold me on it already. I would just really like a date. Its a whole lot easier to maintain an excitement level when you know when to look forward to.

Like now I'm looking forward to Tuesday. Dynasty Warriors 8.

[0_d4RK_FaLLen]

I too am worried we don't seem to be getting any real info on the DLC. Remember before launch when we got vids every week, CM's & DEV's posting & answering questions. They over hyped the crap out of the game before launce and since end of April they seem to be just limping along. Seriously reminds me of those employees that know they are quitting or about to be fired so they stop caring and just do the bare minimum.

[RedMage]

I'm already more concerned with the second DLC. Im hoping for more expansive content with subsequent DLC. New areas to explore, new activities that promote team work, harder content. All those wishes seem like a very big ask, but I need them to continue playing this game. I will likely wait for DLC #2 before spending any more money on Defiance.

With the first DLC, to my understanding, we are getting a new race, which means absolutely nothing to me. Charge weapons might be interesting but sounds like a recipe for more bugs, nerfs, and other misc mishaps. A new Arkfall will be refreshing but likely more of the same. I can't take one more minute of shooting a stationary boulder(crystal). At times I laugh to myself about the absurdity of crouching and dumping 10,000 rounds into a giant rock, then racing to the next spot to do it again.

I usually log in, do the top notch toolworks contract so I can try to get synergy mods for my my not-so-awesome, non-nano, soon-to-be-nerfed, Frontier Saw. After that I usually stand around at the overpass for about 15 minutes trying to talk myself into an Arkfall or Co-Op missions, usually logging out realizing that I have no real desire to repeat any of those activities. Been through the main story twice.

I am going to need some blockbuster DLC or defiance is destined for my "kinda quit playing that" pile.

[dominad]

Is where I think trion is at. With all the bad press and the bleeding of players like a mortal wound.

If the dlc was realy ready to drop at end of the month. Good business would dictate they be hypeing it up in order to regain some of the lost players generate new ones. As well as stem the tides atleast somewhat of the disheartened players that's still in game.

The only real reason from a business sence to not be hypeing it, Is its not ready and wont be by the projected time frame. So they keep still and quiet in order to grab what little cash they can before the next levy of players breaks away because of another delay.

That's just the way of corperate business and sure they are game developers and such but they are still underfoot of cooperate business rules. Is it sad yes . Is it shady hell yes. But its still just business.


The dlc release is already set in a lot of minds to either revive the game or be the final straw. And dosnt matter who is at fault for that players themselves or trion my guess alittle of both.

And if it was truly that close to release and trion was sure it was going to be by the end of july. Buisness would dictate they hype the hell out of it for sales boosts. And to rebuild some lost trust.

But with the shear amount of effort they are putting into dancing around any kind of locked down time frame. It most likely means they know its not going to happen when projected and would rather ride the tide out from behind closed doors.

Than to inform people and let them know whats going on and start the title wave early.

This is just my oppion do not claim it to be everyones. And no I am no game developer. But I have ran a successful business for going on 17 years and one thing I do know unhappy customers means less business and revenue.

And as a business if you have something to appease your customers and generate large new revenues you sell it and hype it . If you don't you keep quiet until you do. Or until you close the doors wich ever happens first.

A man or lady with a brain! Many here are very smart but seem to lack the comprehension such as you just displayed.
I have made similar statements for a while and struggle why anyone can not understand it.
I am glad someone else see's the lost marketing and customer influx potntial been lost by not promoting the about to release DLC is not just strange but an obvious sign that there is something very amiss.
I hope none of my friends are hit too hard by it, I think the hardcore ones with deluxe editions and season pass's kind of do know but they are really too upset to think it might happen.

[dominad]

First off:Hype means schtako!

Second: It's Tidal Wave. Not title wave.

Third: They have been showing stuff off. Facebook has the concept art for weapons being posted every couple days. They had a build running the DLC at E3.

Fourth: How can you run a business without being able to spell Corporate? My guess, you're really a 20 something trying to sound big and bad on the intertubes because it's the cool thing to do.

Finally, I'm glad they aren't showing everything coming up right off the bat. I would love to be able to find stuff on my own. I saw a Monolith arkfall in a video.....I nearly jizzed my pants.

Can you please link to the concept art pages with dates or a reference / index page that shows the date when the content was shared. Minus the video of the short interview at the E3 is there any other video content showing in depth game play. How many actual seconds of game play did they show?

If you think that the approach trion is taking to marketing the DLC is actually of benefit to the player and the company revenue; in what way to you find this marketing technique to be based upon a successful pattern. As someone else mentioned why do you think they have deviated so much from their original PR and marketing setup? A new team? or management choices?

Do you think the DLC should be released to game reviewers next week to hype the public up to get ready or just keep it in game for us current players?

I am glad you are very excited, the monolith ark fall would be fun i hope you enjoy playing it and that it comes out in time for me to consider playing it.

[dominad]

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