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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    The devs are not going to change the game to suit what you specifically want, nor should they. During the entire development period, with the number of staff the have on hand, it's almost certain these features or issues were submitted and discussed. It's silly to assume that they haven't already thought "Hey, should we put an auction house in?". These feature aren't there for one of two reasons: they either dismissed them as not something they wanted to include, or, they haven't gotten around to doing them yet. The amount of work require to overhaul the weapon/looting/scaling system wouldn't be worth the effort, and again, I'm sure they addressed this during development. If they had wanted to do it, they would have done it there. I'm sure a lot do want a more deeper MMO/RPG type game, but that's not what this game is, and so far, it wasn't designed to be, and lots are happy with it as it is - once the bugs are ironed out.

    Many games lose their spark once you reach higher levels. I've abandoned lots of MMO games upon reaching max level.

    The game does not need to change, it needs content added. Given that it's only been out 2 weeks, and we know we're getting constant content upgrades, it's premature to think that more challenging content won't be added in the coming weeks and months, nor that it isn't already complete.

    I have no issue with people wanting additional content, or more difficult content, but to try to change the game into something it wasn't designed to be from the ground up, or to assume that they haven't already discussed these issues to death during the development phase, is a little foolish. It's got nothing to do with whether or not I like the suggestions or changes.
    the game was rushed and isnt finished so these are the suggestions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Nelson View Post
    the game was rushed and isnt finished so these are the suggestions
    even if it was rushed, that doesn't mean that any additional features wouldn't have already been planned out in the many, many months of development meetings. Do you really think that none of the development team ever thought "Hey, what do you guys think about adding jetpacks?" and brought it up? Give these guys some credit here.
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Nelson View Post
    im not going to say that to the few people that disagree with EVERYTHING on the list yes some dont like some ideas who cares its a community feedback discussion thred.

    dont like it get out
    you obviously dont underestand what a community discussion thread is.
    I am part of this community, i am therfore allowed to be part of the discussion wether its in agreeance or against.
    I am against these sorts of changes because it would cheapen the premise of the game.
    I am also allowed to voice my distaste that you keep using the term "community" when talking about this thread, the whole community do not want all of these changes, therefore stop pushing it to the devs by saying that they do.
    If you wish to say you want these things or that some of the community wish to have these things, then so be it, i have no problem with that, but when you use words like 'community', you are referring to us all and you cant/dont speak for us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    even if it was rushed, that doesn't mean that any additional features wouldn't have already been planned out in the many, many months of development meetings. Do you really think that none of the development team ever thought "Hey, what do you guys think about adding jetpacks?" and brought it up? Give these guys some credit here.
    ... well i never knew that its not like they told me lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    even if it was rushed, that doesn't mean that any additional features wouldn't have already been planned out in the many, many months of development meetings. Do you really think that none of the development team ever thought "Hey, what do you guys think about adding jetpacks?" and brought it up? Give these guys some credit here.
    You really don't think fan feedback has any sway on developers?

    Extended Cut is all I have to say about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalwolf View Post
    you obviously dont underestand what a community discussion thread is.
    I am part of this community, i am therfore allowed to be part of the discussion wether its in agreeance or against.
    I am against these sorts of changes because it would cheapen the premise of the game.
    I am also allowed to voice my distaste that you keep using the term "community" when talking about this thread, the whole community do not want all of these changes, therefore stop pushing it to the devs by saying that they do.
    If you wish to say you want these things or that some of the community wish to have these things, then so be it, i have no problem with that, but when you use words like 'community', you are referring to us all and you cant/dont speak for us all.
    well then dont bash on others ideas and tell me to change the thread title just because you came out and didnt like all of these ideas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Nelson View Post
    well then dont bash on others ideas
    Do you understand the word 'Discussion'? Or did you want this thread to be "I have an idea", "omg thats epic, that would be amazing!!!"

    Im sorry to say this, but some ideas are bad and they need to be pointed out before devs start thinking we all want them.

    If you believe im wrong, explain to me how adding pets to this game would make any sense at all? baring in mind ego powers and how/why they work.


    p.s. bashing someones idea as you put it, has no bearing on the fact you keep putting this forward as what the 'community' wants, which its not, some people do, not all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Nelson View Post
    ... well i never knew that its not like they told me lol
    and why would they, you're not on the development team. They don't have to tell you what ideas they had and dismissed as not something that they wanted to include, but I think it's pretty reasonable to assume they weighed the options of scalability, the auction house, jetpacks, and pets. While not the same team as Rift, they still have access other MMO and shooters, just like we do. There are many valid reasons why many of these items are not present in the game, and it is certainly not just a matter of "we ran out of time" for many.
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    even if it was rushed, that doesn't mean that any additional features wouldn't have already been planned out in the many, many months of development meetings. Do you really think that none of the development team ever thought "Hey, what do you guys think about adding jetpacks?" and brought it up? Give these guys some credit here.
    read somewhere, probably here on the forums that trion did want flying vehicles for players but scy-fy said no due to deal with ford and budgetary concerns for the show

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalwolf View Post
    Do you understand the word 'Discussion'? Or did you want this thread to be "I have an idea", "omg thats epic, that would be amazing!!!"

    Im sorry to say this, but some ideas are bad and they need to be pointed out before devs start thinking we all want them.

    If you believe im wrong, explain to me how adding pets to this game would make any sense at all? baring in mind ego powers and how/why they work.


    p.s. bashing someones idea as you put it, has no bearing on the fact you keep putting this forward as what the 'community' wants, which its not, some people do, not all.
    pets could be cosmetical like fate ( as in selling items) and sell items
    well next time i will put from "some" of the community
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    Please be sure to check out my Features/bugs/idea suggestion thread i really want the devs to see it, it will make this game EXPLODE, share input too. http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?10888
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