[Suggestion]: Grace Period for Defiance with explanation.

[Sakara]

yes possibly , but you are talking about a "Grace Period" and i would think that 30 days is a bit late for one.

Hell, even if you bought it off PSN, the store doesnt update until late in the afternoon, how would they get a "Grace Period"

The grace period starts when the game launches, not before. As for Xbox, that is an issue with Microsoft; they could indeed offer a client download, just like they had a beta download, and a short grace period if Microsoft was willing to work with them. If Microsoft isn't, then that is on them. Personally I think it's too late; not because they can't technically do a grace period in the way that has been described, but because so many have been cancelling orders and switching to digital downloads that it would be a huge public relations fiasco for them if they waited until the last minute and then said, "Gee, we actually will do this just like we did in Rifts. Sorry!"

[Exes]

The grace period starts when the game launches, not before. As for Xbox, that is an issue with Microsoft; they could indeed offer a client download, just like they had a beta download, and a short grace period if Microsoft was willing to work with them. If Microsoft isn't, then that is on them. Personally I think it's too late; not because they can't technically do a grace period in the way that has been described, but because so many have been cancelling orders and switching to digital downloads that it would be a huge public relations fiasco for them if they waited until the last minute and then said, "Gee, we actually will do this just like we did in Rifts. Sorry!"

You are just demanding trion to go through a lot of trouble and work and yet the quality of the experience on release day would drastically decrease if you would allow anybody with previous beta access to play. It is just not worth it, just wait the few extra days, seriously...

[IGears]

The grace period starts when the game launches, not before. As for Xbox, that is an issue with Microsoft; they could indeed offer a client download, just like they had a beta download, and a short grace period if Microsoft was willing to work with them. If Microsoft isn't, then that is on them. Personally I think it's too late; not because they can't technically do a grace period in the way that has been described, but because so many have been cancelling orders and switching to digital downloads that it would be a huge public relations fiasco for them if they waited until the last minute and then said, "Gee, we actually will do this just like we did in Rifts. Sorry!"

no its always been Microsoft's policy, that why Game on Demand are always about a month after the game is release. yes it is too late for one, because if Trion did want to do it, they would of announced it weeks ago.

[Sakara]

You are just demanding trion to go through a lot of trouble and work and yet the quality of the experience on release day would drastically if you would allow anybody with previous beta access to play. It is just not worth it, just wait the few extra days, seriously...

Seriously? The quality of the experience on release day will be no different if there is a grace period; no one, other than Trion, would even be able to tell which account is which. How does that even remotely impact the quality of your gaming experience? Hint: It doesn't! It would be no more trouble than what they did for Rifts; less considering that they already have experience in doing it. Oh, and just an FYI: I ordered from a local store, and will have the game around 10 A.M. on the 2nd. However, I have no problem with giving others the grace period. It has zero impact on my experience, or yours for that matter, and lets people who have pre-ordered get established a bit.

[Sakara]

no its always been Microsoft's policy, that why Game on Demand are always about a month after the game is release. yes it is too late for one, because if Trion did want to do it, they would of announced it weeks ago.

Sounds like an issue with Microsoft then, and yet one more reason I will not buy a console from them.

[Exes]

Seriously? The quality of the experience on release day will be no different if there is a grace period; no one, other than Trion, would even be able to tell which account is which. How does that even remotely impact the quality of your gaming experience? Hint: It doesn't! It would be no more trouble than what they did for Rifts; less considering that they already have experience in doing it. Oh, and just an FYI: I ordered from a local store, and will have the game around 10 A.M. on the 2nd. However, I have no problem with giving others the grace period. It has zero impact on my experience, or yours for that matter, and lets people who have pre-ordered get established a bit.

The thing is the planned on early access ect with Rift way before the release and had the keys setup accordingly. This time they would have to retroactively change access and implement something they didn't plan on. It is just not worth it, you just seem like a whiny kid wanting his candy.

In addition, how do you think they would allow everybody who bought it to have that grace period? Contact all suppliers and give them the right amount of keys to distribute to those that bought it? That would take even longer than you would have to wait for your copy.

[Sakara]

The thing is the planned on early access ect with Rift way before the release and had the keys setup accordingly. This time they would have to retroactively change access and implement something they didn't plan on. It is just not worth it, you just seem like a whiny kid wanting his candy.

In addition, how do you think they would allow everybody who bought it to have that grace period? Contact all suppliers and give them the right amount of keys to distribute to those that bought it? That would take even longer than you would have to wait for your copy.

Actually, they didn't plan on early access with Rift, until there was a ****storm on the forums about it. How are you unable to grasp the concept here? Anyone with entered pre-order codes gets the grace period, same as any other game that has had it. They don't need to contact any game store, or anyone other than the customers. Heck, they don't even need to do that; just post a message about it on the forums and the website. If you bought the game and have the copy of the game, physical or digital download, you don't need the grace period since you will have the proper key to enter.

If this was a MMO with a grace period, you would have a few days at most before the game deactivated and you had to have a valid key. But it's not a MMO; there is no monthly subscription to make any sort of difference. Even if it was, there still would be no difference. Ergo, they could allow a short grace period, the same as they do with free trials; shorter actually, as free trials in online games tend to run either 7 or 14 days. The period here would be no longer than two days (from launch) total. The Europe mess is a different story, and I hope Trion makes it up to those customers somehow.

Once again, this doesn't effect me in the slightest; I will have my copy and be playing on launch day. I have no problem in giving those that ordered a physical copy, but can't get it on launch day a small grace period. In the case of the Europeans and any others who might have had some kind of shipping mix up, I would favor either giving them a slightly longer grace period or perhaps something else to compensate them. Frankly the only one here sounding whiney is you; it has no impact on you or your gaming experience at all, so why rail against it so hard?

[taskun56]

There is no reason they can't grant a 48 hour grace period. There are plenty of games that do this through the same system used to manage beta access. Rift AND Aion were perfect examples. That being said, I have no choice to wait because I work all night the night of the release. So it doesn't affect me much. I still think it should be a small grace period. No reason to alienate your pre-order people who wanted editions that were specifically made exclusive to Gamestop. That is Trion's problem as well.

[Muffinman]

Yea, there really should be a grace period, my best buy collectors pre order, which I ordered months ago and ordered the fastest shipping available is expected to arrive from "4/11 - 4/22".

[Defy]

well if they havent announced it already I dont think its gonna happen