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    CONFIRMED: Mobs Do Not Drop Legendaries (Oranges)

    This was too important to leave sitting around in just the PC forum so I'm re-posting this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrickDempsey View Post
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    Aside from some errors which were patched out shortly after release, enemies will never drop legendary weapons. (There may be some rogue loot table out there which does, these things happen, but it is not intended.) We always want to encourage players to seek out and complete events. As such, legendary weapons only come from lock boxes and from large events which reward gear. Major arkfalls are the obvious events to do this, but sieges do as well. Eliminating high level gear from random drops prevents some kinds of undesirable play (such as farming an infinite spawn) and prevents very valuable items from plummeting into locations a player cannot reach. You have not seen rage like when a legendary falls between two crates.

    Now, for a peak behind the curtain regarding Zoranth’s clever experiment:

    Not all enemies are created equal, and, particularly, the biggest difference exists between “weenies”, “grunts”, and “elites.” After that, there are varying levels of elites, but the distinction between these three is most important. Weenies are enemies like skitterlings, drones, and mongrels. They do not drop valuable gear. Ever. They primarily drop ammo, scrip, and salvage.

    Grunts are a little different. They have a chance of dropping gear, but that gear is capped at green. These enemies make up the “meat and potatoes” of any combat encounter with an enemy group. Since killing one of them is never a particularly significant event, they similarly never drop exceptional-quality items. Enforcers, Mattocks, and Blasters fall into this class of enemies.

    Elites are a bit special, and they can drop higher-quality weapons, but they still never drop a legendary.

    Okay, peek over. Shoo.

    Zoranth’s experiment was clever, and I’m thrilled to see someone doing SCIENCE! to our loot drop system. However, due to the target he chose, the experiment was also flawed. To get a better idea of our loot distribution, you should do a survey which uses a full event as the test environment. Enemies which spawn repeatedly in a single event, particularly infinite spawns, have reduced loot tables. (Specifically, you should have found a lot of ammo.)

    One of the major systems we are working on going forward is to make this distinction more obvious and to make the methods of earning awards more concrete and explicit. We’re going to be calling out enemy classes with HUD elements and other serious quality of life improvements. That promise does not help you optimize your play right now, so I’ll give you a bit of optimal play advice.
    1. Complete events – ark keys are the quickest way to earn lock boxes, and they can be earned in arkfalls, coop maps, sieges, and conflict sites. (The repeatable combat areas featured in most missions.)
    a. Also, MOST experience comes from event completion, and that is important to know for folk who have not reached max EGO rating.
    2. Focus on elites and other large enemies – these are the ONLY guys who will drop rare gear.
    3. Complete major arkfalls – that equipment you get at the end IS a lock box. (They are special lock boxes, but lock boxes none the less.)
    Originally posted here.

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    So the people who got legendary scavenger snipers off of a skittering were lieing? The heck you say!
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    Saw this earlier and am really glad to have gotten a proper answer. Think from here on out I will only listen to things Trick says. So far he has been the only one to give good info, and does a good job explaining decisions with actual insight into the game. He gave an actual answer to why turret was removed from raptor, has given some good detail on the dlc and patch etc...

    Over all Trion has shown they are trying to communicate and be more clear in any info given, but like with this example it seems some employees just are not given proper or up to date info to pass along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JxSiN View Post
    So the people who got legendary scavenger snipers off of a skittering were lieing? The heck you say!
    Kindly show the post where someone said they got one off a skitterling.
    Oh, you mean you're lying and can't spell it, ok. Carry on.
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    This just in: Legendary drops from enemy mobs has been updated to...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac

    x2 points if you saw that coming

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    you know this means that Sledge lied about it.
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    This just confirms what everyone almost universally agreed was fact. I'm not surprised this is the case, and I agree with his reasoning on not having legendary drops. I do like their logic of using legendary drops as arkfall and siege rewards; it funnels players into that type of content, which in turn makes those events more fun. I like the lack of emphasis on solo grinding a singular spot, and instead focusing on chasing arkfalls and sieges.

    Quote Originally Posted by TigrisMorte View Post
    Kindly show the post where someone said they got one off a skitterling.
    Oh, you mean you're lying and can't spell it, ok. Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IGears View Post
    you know this means that Sledge lied about it.

    You do realize that a person can be mistaken without having intentionally lied? Before you accuse him of lying you might want to consider that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGears View Post
    you know this means that Sledge lied about it.
    Most likely it was really old info he believed was still true. It is sad but most Trion employees should probably hire a fact checker to read each post/statement before they type/speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0_d4RK_FaLLen View Post
    Most likely it was really old info he believed was still true. It is sad but most Trion employees should probably hire a fact checker to read each post/statement before they type/speak.
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