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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    Define allows. Do you mean "doesn't approve" but hasn't actually gone out of there way to punish people for using it?
    Or first say that it's fine, then say it's not, then again say it's fine and then finally leave a completely ambiguous statement that can be taken numerous way?
    you're attempting to split a hair that does not exist

    name me one mmo that would allow you to alter your graphics so that your avatar appears like a cat. name just one natively english mmo that allows this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyse View Post
    people just need to play games how they r meant 2 be played and stop using things :/
    Pff, please, what do we own PCs for? With no permission to set or adjust anti-aliasing settings, texture-LOD, show an OSD with system information, one could just as well play on one of these consoles. Being told what we may or may not do is not why we got PCs.

    Besides, the software running on my PC is like a guest in my home. The guest better not try to boss me around, or he gets the boot faster than he can realize. But that doesn't mean we can be disrespectful to out guests. Some common sense and ground have to be found.

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    I remember Punk Buster for CoD1. Haven't seen it since, but it seemed to work back in the day.
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    Well the built in Aimbot still worked on the beta event for me, so if thats still enabled everyone's going to be reported as illegal aimboters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    you're attempting to split a hair that does not exist

    name me one mmo that would allow you to alter your graphics so that your avatar appears like a cat. name just one natively english mmo that allows this
    You're attempting to introduce factors that have nothing to do with what I mentioned. Sweetfx has nothing to do with altering the graphics so your avatar can appear like a cat, so your argument is irrelevant. I was not talking about replacing graphics, I was talking about altering graphic settings, I mean I did mention sweetFX so it should've been obvious what I was talking about.

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    Pretty sure it will be a problem but it will be up to Trion to enforce. But I will agree, would be worse if it was straight up F2P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    You're attempting to introduce factors that have nothing to do with what I mentioned. Sweetfx has nothing to do with altering the graphics so your avatar can appear like a cat, so your argument is irrelevant. I was not talking about replacing graphics, I was talking about altering graphic settings, I mean I did mention sweetFX so it should've been obvious what I was talking about.
    IDK what that other guy is talking about but sweetfx can make invisible character bright pink or something which is why it won't be allowed in this game that and it's a injector which is view by anti hack systems as a hack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    You're attempting to introduce factors that have nothing to do with what I mentioned. Sweetfx has nothing to do with altering the graphics so your avatar can appear like a cat, so your argument is irrelevant. I was not talking about replacing graphics, I was talking about altering graphic settings, I mean I did mention sweetFX so it should've been obvious what I was talking about.
    sweetfx does not modify your graphics. it's an injector. that is a totally different animal from what what originally stated, which was:

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    Hopefully their in game monitoring doesn't ban people for [b]graphic mods.]/b] Always hate how devs and community managers for other games flip flop on graphics mods (such as sweetfx)

    albeit i missed where you mentioned sweetfx, but sweetfx is NOT a graphics mod. a MOD adds additional files and/or changes the core files of the game. sweetfx does not do this. it's is not a mod, it's an injector. it's unlikely they will care about an injector. but they WILL care about a MOD


    Quote Originally Posted by rathb18 View Post
    IDK what that other guy is talking about but sweetfx can make invisible character bright pink or something which is why it won't be allowed in this game that and it's a injector which is view by anti hack systems as a hack.
    if sweetfx can be used in such a way as to make a cloaked person in pvp perfectly visible then no, that would not be allowed. no mmo would allow it. that's not much different from the aimbots that show you where everyone is on screen via little boxes around their avatars.

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    Punk Buster is a useless piece of software. APB uses that crap and they are still plagued with aim-bots galore. I seriously hope if not soon, then after launch that Trion gets Syfy to foot the bill and get them some decent anti-hack/cheat software pronto.

    Because the cheating in APB was one of the main reasons that killed the popularity of that game and would hate to see it happen to Defiance.

    I definitely will not be using Shadow Wars until Trion gets the issue handled. There are plenty of MMOs out there that don't have this issue, so it's not impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senel View Post
    Both of those anti-hack services are equally useless.
    I have to agree; although I am not as familiar with NProtect, Punk Buster I have always found to be virtually useless.

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