It dosnt matter how much we ask for real info

[dwej1973]

Has anybody realized that there are talks of canceling the television show already? It's only been one season and they are talking about it going bye bye. what does that hold for the game then?

[0_d4RK_FaLLen]

Has anybody realized that there are talks of canceling the television show already? It's only been one season and they are talking about it going bye bye. what does that hold for the game then?

They said either could/would survive as standalone but that was long time ago. Season two was renewed but I don't see show lasting past that.

[A s0t]

They said either could/would survive as standalone but that was long time ago. Season two was renewed but I don't see show lasting past that.

could be worse and they could have made firefly game and we know how that worked out on fox

[0_d4RK_FaLLen]

could be worse and they could have made firefly game and we know how that worked out on fox

Fox sucks I want Firefly back. Did you hear about the Firefly game

[Valaska]

How many times have we heard that. Heard that "this new guy will be different when they switched EP. So far nothing out of that guy who has more control of the day to day of defiance. If you think this new CEO is going to who in control of all the games Trion makes will have some sweeping changes of defiance you better think again. He has to much on his plate other then focusing on Defiance. He will give it a once over say what he thinks should be done and the direction of the game after that he goes back to his office and has nothing else to do with defiance other then a few progress reports.

New CEO means absolutely nothing for Defiance. Only thing that will would be if they fired a majority of the SD office and had the rift crew work on the game. But then again I highly doubt any big changes to how defiance is actually developed.

Your in for more of the same just with an all new front man.

To many promises, no follow through and little to none trust from the consumer base. Which has been fully earned by Trion. They have done absolutely nothing to earn customer trust or loyalty. You see how they treat the fans that have been here since day 1. We are still paying insane matrix costs, still playing the slot machine upgrade system and still getting treated like cra0 considering we are the reason Defiance is even still around. The money we spent on bits, the season passes purchased, the collectors editions we own.

Hey but buy the game on stream for $9.99 19.99 on xbox and ps3. You guys that uave been here since day 1...hang in there we promise we got something for you.

Hey new people you can now have all perks unlocked by 1000 ego and all co-ops accesed much sooner as well. Hey you 2000+ego people hang in there we got something for you in the works, no info to share at this time but its something.

3weeks left in august and still no release date.....

So....tell me where they earn this trust....I have yet to see anything from Trion that shows the6 give a damn about anyone who has been here since day one waiting for these empty promises and dealing with the lies, server issues and clan issues that still arent fixed.

But hey you new people heres a leg up. Heres some help for you.

This does deserve to be quoted again, well put man.

[Kaiselius]

Has anybody realized that there are talks of canceling the television show already? It's only been one season and they are talking about it going bye bye. what does that hold for the game then?

Last I heard, it was already greenlight for a 13 episode second season...

[Valaska]

Last I heard, it was already greenlight for a 13 episode second season...

Thats what I heard too.

[CRIXDA]

Yup.
We are getting the second season of Defiance. It is already being filmed, what are they going to do - tear the lumpy makeup off of Stephanie Leonidas' forehead and tell her she isn't needed anymore like they did the program team for the game?
I don't see that happening. Anyway, I am betting that we get a release date by Saturday for the DLC drop.
The Alpha Test should be over by then hopefully.
Stephanie Leonidas isn't anywhere near as pretty as a human as she is as an Irath.

[Rasczak]

Personally, Val, I could care less who is to blame, who did what, or why something has happened. I'm the owner of a publishing business (tabletop RPGs, novels, and graphic novels) with international distribution. We screw up, too. At no point have I seen a majority of our customers give a care about why we messed up, or who messed up. They care about one thing: that we get the project/product back on track and fix the screw up, and do so in a timely manner. Period.

I, for one, could not possibly care less about the who, what, why, when, and where of why the original Dev team and management staff drove this game into a hole so badly. I care that the current team fixes the mess. I care that they get Defiance and the DLCs back on track, and that they get the Season 1 to Season 2 bridge content into the game before June 2014 as Syfy publicly said is coming (including directly from the television show runner, and from the San Diego Comic Con panel).

That they laid off staff, shuttered San Diego and moved operations to Redwood, is not my concern. That is their problem, and now Hartman's problem. My concern is that they have my money, so they fix this product, get on track with the 5 DLCs, and provide everything that has been advertised (never mind pre-ordered). That is their only responsibility (including under law) to me as a consumer who has paid for the product, and what I expect them to get it in gear and follow through with. The community management/liason lip service, excuses, apologies, and other speak does not fix the issue.

Trion showed what they can do with Rift. Whether the CMs want to hear it or not, the Defiance team to date--- be it the development team, management team, or both--- has shown since April (at least, as I wasn't in Beta), that they were nowhere near the caliber of the Redwood studio. It's a shame, because Trion set the bar for themselves, and then kicked the bar off the pole and buried it in the sand.

My concern is that they fix this mess, get the DLCs out, and provide the Season to Season bridge content before the next season. I don't care what they have to say. There's been 4 months of talk. Some of us are done with that business strategy.

Has anybody realized that there are talks of canceling the television show already? It's only been one season and they are talking about it going bye bye. what does that hold for the game then?

Then your information would be better than mine, and I have industry friends. First round filming on Season 2 starts tomorrow (August 12th) in Canada. And if you have heard of an official Syfy stance to not renew past Season 2 already, you'd have really damned good information that even I can't find from a reputable source.

[Wraieth]

Personally, Val, I could care less who is to blame, who did what, or why something has happened. I'm the owner of a publishing business (tabletop RPGs, novels, and graphic novels) with international distribution. We screw up, too. At no point have I seen a majority of our customers give a care about why we messed up, or who messed up. They care about one thing: that we get the project/product back on track and fix the screw up, and do so in a timely manner. Period.

I, for one, could not possibly care less about the who, what, why, when, and where of why the original Dev team and management staff drove this game into a hole so badly. I care that the current team fixes the mess. I care that they get Defiance and the DLCs back on track, and that they get the Season 1 to Season 2 bridge content into the game before June 2014 as Syfy publicly said is coming (including directly from the television show runner, and from the San Diego Comic Con panel).

That they laid off staff, shuttered San Diego and moved operations to Redwood, is not my concern. That is their problem, and now Hartman's problem. My concern is that they have my money, so they fix this product, get on track with the 5 DLCs, and provide everything that has been advertised (never mind pre-ordered). That is their only responsibility (including under law) to me as a consumer who has paid for the product, and what I expect them to get it in gear and follow through with. The community management/liason lip service, excuses, apologies, and other speak does not fix the issue.

Trion showed what they can do with Rift. Whether the CMs want to hear it or not, the Defiance team to date--- be it the development team, management team, or both--- has shown since April (at least, as I wasn't in Beta), that they were nowhere near the caliber of the Redwood studio. It's a shame, because Trion set the bar for themselves, and then kicked the bar off the pole and buried it in the sand.

My concern is that they fix this mess, get the DLCs out, and provide the Season to Season bridge content before the next season. I don't care what they have to say. There's been 4 months of talk. Some of us are done with that business strategy.




Then your information would be better than mine, and I have industry friends. First round filming on Season 2 starts tomorrow (August 12th) in Canada. And if you have heard of an official Syfy stance to not renew past Season 2 already, you'd have really damned good information that even I can't find from a reputable source.

I have to agree with you I don't care why. Why dosnt fix what happened. Neither does all the side steping talk from the cms.

I simply care they fix it asap. And keep us informed with what they are fixing and how. And yea with all the let downs they have had since launch it needs fixed yesterday.

But time will tell if dahanese is just lip sinking again or if they actualy mean what they say, But I wont hold my breath either.