Yet another reason to not trust Trion

[A s0t]

Yes Sot, I know you still cry over your poor nerfed flare. I would hate if they nerfed my Ba sniper *Chelsea* as well.

but it was the only thing i used to get head shots though

[dahanese]

For the record, the issue is not having a concept change throughout development, but to delete/remove threads/videos containing such changed information. This community will understand that concepts need to be changed from original development, but to try and cover it up by removing this 'incorrect' information only makes Trion appear as though they are trying to hide this fact. Mistakes happen, own up to them instead of trying to cover them up.

EDIT: At least Trick seems to understand this.

I will never advocate for deleting or erasing stuff. In rare instances we do things like unlist old videos (End of Nations, for example, since we drastically changed the play style) but we don't delete them.

You can't erase anything in this day and age. It's the internet. If I believed that was possible you should get my head checked.

[Valaska]

I will never advocate for deleting or erasing stuff. In rare instances we do things like unlist old videos (End of Nations, for example, since we drastically changed the play style) but we don't delete them.

You can't erase anything in this day and age. It's the internet. If I believed that was possible you should get my head checked.

How about you not ignore the issue and actually put a statement on the turret and explain to us WHY there are devs lying about it right now? Why is there mixed statements? Why can't you keep devs mouth shut when they don't know what they are talking about and put Trick as your front runner?

Seriously you have a team that is confusing the ever loving hell out of your community, you are circularly back talking and avoiding issues, this is like watergate before they finally just admitted they done screwed up and resigned... I'm thinking maybe a resignation in order and a change of community representative Developer...

[Reichlyn]

How about you not ignore the issue and actually put a statement on the turret and explain to us WHY there are devs lying about it right now? Why is there mixed statements? Why can't you keep devs mouth shut when they don't know what they are talking about and put Trick as your front runner?

Seriously you have a team that is confusing the ever loving hell out of your community, you are circularly back talking and avoiding issues, this is like watergate before they finally just admitted they done screwed up and resigned... I'm thinking maybe a resignation in order and a change of community representative Developer...

Or how about some of you quit crying like a bunch of babies? Whats done is done, and its clear with the movement to redwood studios and the shake up in management that they are taking steps to make things better. So the car wont have a turret, boohoo. If its not ready, then its not ready, quit whining.

[dahanese]

How about you not ignore the issue and actually put a statement on the turret and explain to us WHY there are devs lying about it right now? Why is there mixed statements? Why can't you keep devs mouth shut when they don't know what they are talking about and put Trick as your front runner?

Seriously you have a team that is confusing the ever loving hell out of your community, you are circularly back talking and avoiding issues, this is like watergate before they finally just admitted they done screwed up and resigned... I'm thinking maybe a resignation in order and a change of community representative Developer...

Turretgate: the bane of my existence right now.

Honestly, I'm going to table the turret thing right now and ask for your forgiveness on everything that's confused the hell out of you guys. I was chatting with my husband over dinner last night, explaining to him the turret situation, and feeling very confused for myself and frustrated for you guys. What I told you last week came from Trick - but I know that after all the miscommunications in the past, this issue's going to be a sore spot. After thinking it over, I was wondering if we could have a truce on this one - we majorly screwed up the communication. At this point, rather than trying to give you a perfect timeline of everything that people said would be more effort than me doing other things for you guys. Does that make sense and will you guys let me do that?

[Valaska]

Right now what you need to do is hand down an actual statement from the company why this miscommunication happened, there should be some form of remuneration to the community for all of this. I can accept the game had doctored pre-release pictures with graphic fidelity that was, quite frankly, eye poppingly awesome. I can accept there aren't Cerberus' in open world, or even that you don't have turrets!

The turrets aren't the complete issue here, what is the issue is the miscommunication and how it repeats itself. What is the issue is the trust our community rightfully is loosing in the Trion development team, and why we should keep patience. This is the stage of PR where you fall down, scrape your knee's, pick yourself up with poise, and level with us.

Why was there confusion in the development team about the turret issue? What was the causal route of the problem? Re-issue a statement of why the turrets can't be implemented whether it be they would (OBVIOUSLY lol) ruin arkfalls etc, or server stability/latency etc.

[Market]

Turretgate: the bane of my existence right now.

Honestly, I'm going to table the turret thing right now and ask for your forgiveness on everything that's confused the hell out of you guys. I was chatting with my husband over dinner last night, explaining to him the turret situation, and feeling very confused for myself and frustrated for you guys. What I told you last week came from Trick - but I know that after all the miscommunications in the past, this issue's going to be a sore spot. After thinking it over, I was wondering if we could have a truce on this one - we majorly screwed up the communication. At this point, rather than trying to give you a perfect timeline of everything that people said would be more effort than me doing other things for you guys. Does that make sense and will you guys let me do that?

Let the first person on these forums who's never made a mistake throw the first Disco Ball! (our name for flashbangs... lol)

The mature audience will accept it. The people who don't? you get the picture!

[dahanese]

How about you not ignore the issue and actually put a statement on the turret and explain to us WHY there are devs lying about it right now? Why is there mixed statements? Why can't you keep devs mouth shut when they don't know what they are talking about and put Trick as your front runner?

Seriously you have a team that is confusing the ever loving hell out of your community, you are circularly back talking and avoiding issues, this is like watergate before they finally just admitted they done screwed up and resigned... I'm thinking maybe a resignation in order and a change of community representative Developer...

I answered you about this in a different thread. It will definitely help more if we keep the questions in one area so I don't miss something you ask - and I don't really want to repeat myself and further confuse - so here you go: http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...=1#post1142956

[A s0t]

How about you not ignore the issue and actually put a statement on the turret and explain to us WHY there are devs lying about it right now? Why is there mixed statements? Why can't you keep devs mouth shut when they don't know what they are talking about and put Trick as your front runner?

Seriously you have a team that is confusing the ever loving hell out of your community, you are circularly back talking and avoiding issues, this is like watergate before they finally just admitted they done screwed up and resigned... I'm thinking maybe a resignation in order and a change of community representative Developer...

why you being mean? she told you like 3 times "my bad" "our team bad"and she didn't pass the buck on to sledgehammer or myrll
and with 14 posts im thinking you got banned and made a new account just to troll her.
and she has the power to close the thread
what is done is done and let it go. and if they do another version of turret gate, yeah i'll be grabbing the pitch fork too

[Zootharuu]

Well, I hope you really don't believe that every Trion employee are trying deceit us as a consumer! This is poor issue to ***** about!