Yet another reason to not trust Trion

[A s0t]

What are you talking about? She ran the ship when Sledge was here as well. But that's got nothing to do with anything. These are not personal attacks. This is just discourse. The first time that we've actually had a chance to communicate any and all grievances to her and feel that it was direct. It might seem rough right now, but it'll die down as communication expands. And all of the 'everybody chill' comments is not moving the discussion forward. It's reducing it back to square one.

sledge was clearly on his own program see the list that Wraieght made and since they fired every body we get trion 2.0 and hope

[Valaska]

I actually like this game, and I suspect DaMaJaDiZ does as well! The problems she allowed to go on before will repeat unless the community and Dev's work this problem out together, the Devs have shown themselves incapable of acting responsibly without our input and I believe they are trying to get it now. But Dahanese taking it as a personal attack is a bit far, this is us trying to level with the devs, this is progress. You have to be Stern or devs will walk all over you, its proven itself time and time again.

[MacDeath]

Two heads are always better than one...

I don't think Sledge was fired, I just suspect he didn't want to relocate when the studio was shut down, HOWEVER... He's gone so YOU can count his head too. NOW are we done with THIS particular witch hunt?

[Valaska]

The two heads was better than one is a joke, no one should be fired, someone should take the blame for the problem and accept responsibility. The company won't improve if we just roll over and let them do what they did back in the "Sledge" era it will repeat, as it was virtually the same heads of staff back then. If we don't cut our teeth with the devs right now, how is it going to change, hm?

[Iceberg]

What are you talking about? She ran the ship when Sledge was here as well. But that's got nothing to do with anything. These are not personal attacks. This is just discourse. The first time that we've actually had a chance to communicate any and all grievances to her and feel that it was direct. It might seem rough right now, but it'll die down as communication expands. And all of the 'everybody chill' comments is not moving the discussion forward. It's reducing it back to square one.

Because some of you are being cry babies about the past. A new E.P. a new CEO and a restructured studio, things are going to take time for discussions to move forward. If someone is looking for accountability on miscommunication you had it, the old E.P. got kicked to the curb and the director of the community has apologized for the short comings of those who misspoke.

If anything all this finger pointing and being negative will just make the devs/community people clam up again and not type to anyone. There was a time for hatred about what happened, that time is over, now we need to focus on the present situation of a patch/DLC that is not ready for launch, although some parts of it are good to go IMO.

[dahanese]

I don't think Sledge was fired, I just suspect he didn't want to relocate when the studio was shut down, HOWEVER... He's gone so YOU can count his head too. NOW are we done with THIS particular witch hunt?

Just to clear this up: Sledge wasn't fired nor did his leaving have anything to do with the studio situation. He handed in his resignation to me before all of that. It happens, and we'll miss him, but we soldier on! Let's not make conspiracy theories.

[DaMaJaDiZ]

Because some of you are being cry babies about the past. A new E.P. a new CEO and a restructured studio, things are going to take time for discussions to move forward. If someone is looking for accountability on miscommunication you had it, the old E.P. got kicked to the curb and the director of the community has apologized for the short comings of those who misspoke.

If anything all this finger pointing and being negative will just make the devs/community people clam up again and not type to anyone. There was a time for hatred about what happened, that time is over, now we need to focus on the present situation of a patch/DLC that is not ready for launch, although some parts of it are good to go IMO.

See, this is where I see a problem. You use terms like "because some of YOU" not some of US. The division in this discussion isn't between those asking questions and the team, it's between people that won't let us just get answers for US all. Since you quoted me directly, I'll respond also to your presumption of "hatred", finger pointing and "negativity". not once did I call for any ones head to roll. My insertion into this dialogue has been clear and precise. I don't care if you feel as if the boat is being rocked and you're uncomfortable. I read you're messages and might not agree, but allow you to express yourself in your own way. But you certainly do not have any sway over what so many others need to ask, and the answers that we seek. I have no concern over the dlc, or a patch whenever that will happen. You presume far too much, and any questions that I have aren't directed towards you. So let those that I am speaking to speak for themselves.

[SymbolicGamer]

Val, the Raptor was originally going to have a turret and it got removed because they couldn't get it working properly. Not everything in the development process makes it into the final product.

There's your answer.

One employee at an event misspoke and said there was a turret on the back (when there clearly wasn't). This caused some confusion, and Dahanese asked a member of the dev team, who confirmed it was weaponless.

The reason is irrelevant. All that matters to me is the final product and what I'll get for my money.

Y'all are just impatient and feeling entitled.

I think both Dahanese and OverlordUT are doing a great job.

[Iceberg]

See, this is where I see a problem. You use terms like "because some of YOU" not some of US. The division in this discussion isn't between those asking questions and the team, it's between people that won't let us just get answers for US all. Since you quoted me directly, I'll respond also to your presumption of "hatred", finger pointing and "negativity". not once did I call for any ones head to roll. My insertion into this dialogue has been clear and precise. I don't care if you feel as if the boat is being rocked and you're uncomfortable. I read you're messages and might not agree, but allow you to express yourself in your own way. But you certainly do not have any sway over what so many others need to ask, and the answers that we seek. I have no concern over the dlc, or a patch whenever that will happen. You presume far too much, and any questions that I have aren't directed towards you. So let those that I am speaking to speak for themselves.

No, I do not have any sway over anyone nor do I expect that. I, however, wish some common sense is used when asking questions, some answers "we" have already gotten. Its up to "us" to accept them and move on or just sit here spinning "our" wheels.

At no point in any of my posts have I said "Stop asking questions". The raptor issue was discussed to death, we got the answer from a dev (trick) and that should be that. Arsenic_Touch posted a picture of it in the Alpha forums in its current state, and not only is the raptor half assed, it is an unyielding roller like the diaper truck. The devs had an issue with the turret when their theory of it was put into practice and changes need to be made for the overall stability of the game/server and/or Client/user.

I get it, we don't like being lied to, but it happens every day. From news media to government officials. It would be great if those who are conveying the ideas and thoughts of the dev team would stop, but we can only give them all a chance and hope they do the right thing from now on. So far, Dahanese is doing a good job IMO. If there are specific areas/things you feel were not answered or answered correctly then by all means do what you wish to get that information. I have always been under the "presumption" that you can get more by using honey rather than using vinegar.

[DaMaJaDiZ]

No, I do not have any sway over anyone nor do I expect that. I, however, wish some common sense is used when asking questions, some answers "we" have already gotten. Its up to "us" to accept them and move on or just sit here spinning "our" wheels.

At no point in any of my posts have I said "Stop asking questions". The raptor issue was discussed to death, we got the answer from a dev (trick) and that should be that. Arsenic_Touch posted a picture of it in the Alpha forums in its current state, and not only is the raptor half assed, it is an unyielding roller like the diaper truck. The devs had an issue with the turret when their theory of it was put into practice and changes need to be made for the overall stability of the game/server and/or Client/user.

I get it, we don't like being lied to, but it happens every day. From news media to government officials. It would be great if those who are conveying the ideas and thoughts of the dev team would stop, but we can only give them all a chance and hope they do the right thing from now on. So far, Dahanese is doing a good job IMO. If there are specific areas/things you feel were not answered or answered correctly then by all means do what you wish to get that information. I have always been under the "presumption" that you can get more by using honey rather than using vinegar.

Why are you even addressing me about this? I've not mentioned the Raptor (could care less) nor have I directly mentioned being lied to. In fact, I've made no demands whatsoever besides opening communications further. If anything, I've been more of a mediator than an aggressor. So what exactly is your point, and who should you be directing it to? Instead of impeding what little progress we're making with this frivolous claims and distractions, how about you get on board with making this a little easier for everyone that has a question to ask, but might not be sure on how to go about it the right way?