Loved the beta but...

[Snowgoons]

http://www.projectholodeck.com/

friggin holodecks! that's the coolest thing ever, google glasses ain't got ISH on a holodeck! Imagine Defiance played on a darn holodeck! I don't think my brain can take these thoughts...off to bed! gnite all :P

[Smokey the Bear]

Just a quick Q. Did I miss the memo about the next gen Xbox and PS4 already being announced as $600?!!

I'm certain that they haven't decided the pricing yet with 8ish months still to go, so lets see what strategy they coming up with first! I strongly believe that they're going to have to sell them at a heavy loss in order to get people interested, and then make up some of the shortfall on software and dashboard shenanigans (Netflix etc)

If they do turn out to be $600 then I will agree with you - they will crash and burn. I just don't think they can afford to think that way. I'm also sure that I've read in a few places that they will cost considerably less than that.

Hey, you know every console has always been in the range of $200-$700 right? That's nothing new. The NES cost $250 at launch - in 1985 that was some good dough; minimum wage was around $4, it's now $10+. You know games for the N64 were $105 a pop? (At least in Canada). The 3D0 was what, $700? Prices jumped considerably (Not really) with the 360($499 CDN) and PS3(*599.99 CDN), but so did the technology involved.

[Derity]

I highly doubt not alot of people know about the next gen coming out. Those who are fans will know about each console when its finally fully announced for each one. Just like PS4 3 hour announcement showing off parts of their system and games coming out for it back on Feb 20th.

Really if people's gripe and your sad excuse on next gen titles is"lack of library" is pathetic. Every system of each generation starts off with a "tiny library". If you except 100 games out by launch date you're an idiot. And quite frankly I could careless about backwards incompatibility. Thats why smart gamers will keep their other systems incase they want to play older games. Also I have no issue with inability to resell used games. I keep every single game I have ever purchased and I think those who do get rid of their games after their done with them arent real gamers. I know many people also who feel the same way. While I agree the requirement to have Kinect connected at all times is asinine, I personally wont have any issues with it since this time around I dont plan on buying Microsoft's next gen with owning all 3 of the current gen but mostly playing just PS3.

I pretty much disagree with everything you're saying here.

Both of my brothers play games a lot, I mean these guys are on their Xbox 360's all day playing games - but they're not like me, I stay up to date with game news on a daily basis, as I'm sure you do too. They were not aware of the PS4 up until a few days ago. It doesn't mean someone isn't a fan of something just because they don't scour the internet for the latest information - most fans are too busy playing their consoles.

Every new console has a small library of games, you should easily be able to use your common sense to understand why this would be a turn-off for a lot of potential customers. I wouldn't touch a new console if it didn't have any games I was interested in.

Trading in video games is very common in this industry, again - saying someone is not a true gamer because they sell the games they no longer play, is completely beyond me. If I'm done with a game and it's sitting in my shelf gathering dust for a month and I know I'm never going to touch it again - it gets sold. Theres no question about it. Maybe you're just a hoarder?

I sold my PS3 about a month ago for the same reason. I play my Xbox 360 a lot more because most of my friends play it, the only game I bought the PS3 for was Killzone and Demons Souls, but I've played out those games and hadn't touched them in months - so why would I keep this dust gatherer in my house when I can sell it and put the money towards Rent / Food / whatever?

[DJTrig]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the possibility that Trion may have something up there sleeve to cover this argument (which we have had a few times on this forum already) and if they do it makes sense they wouldn't be aloud to talk freely about it.I am also a "real" gamer and as such i get all the systems so i can play the exclusives.That said i have not yet got the WiiU because there is only one game that really grabs my attention (Lego city,some may say i'm to old but i just love the lego games).That is also one of the reasons i won't be rushing out for the nextbox or PS4 (only the new infamous grabs me so far).

I look forward to E3 this year so we can see some more on the PS4 (hopefully more than it being an extention of facebook,which is all i got from the early show).And i can't wait to see what MS can offer since 360 is my main console this gen' (please don't call it Durango).Also,a lot of us "real" gamers have things that we have to prioritize over our hobbies as such we can't run out and buy everything we want.The ability to trade our games and buy used games or rent games gives us the chance to play games we would have to miss out on if we couldn't do those things.

[Shadow Skill]

You will probably be able to play Defiance on the new systems. If not, it's still Defiance, a great MMO shooter. It's not like the next gen systems are gonna have MMO's.

But they gonna, at least sort of MMO FPS- very similiar in some concept to Defiance btw
Destiny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EwOUi4JDC4o

They know next gen is coming in Nov. Most gamers will be moving to PS4 and whatever crap Microsoft calls theirs this time. So not too much longer, the console versions of, what I believe will be a great game(and show) is gonna become a wasteland with no one playing it on the consoles anymore

From a devs standpoint, why should they care if you are still playing game half year after release and after your purchase. Its not like there is subscription or store full of shining goodies in Defiance to keep you paying. You payed, you played now you can go now.
Or swap to PC - with playerbase of much longer lifespan

[Schwa]

Posting in a PC gaming master race thread.

[Blastiel]

I question why Trion Worlds is releasing the game for PS3 and 360. They know next gen is coming in Nov. Most gamers will be moving to PS4 and whatever crap Microsoft calls theirs this time. So not too much longer, the console versions of, what I believe will be a great game(and show) is gonna become a wasteland with no one playing it on the consoles anymore.

This shows a total lack of understanding when it comes to new consoles. Firstly everyone will not be immediately jumping ship, sure the die hards, fanboys and gadget lovers will take the plunge first but most will wait until they get given a real reason to jump.

I have no problem seeing PC version living on but I just cant see the console having much life by this time next year. I have also heard no announcements being made that they will bring this game to next gen either.

DCUO says otherwise.

I get why they have the game coming out along with the show, I love the idea of both running side by side and helping/affecting the story out somehow on both sides. I just question their reasoning behind it for consoles. While I generally prefer my MMOs to be played on PC, I prefer my FPS/shooters on console. The sole reason I wont be getting this game, as much as I have enjoyed the beta is because come Nov. my PS3 days are pretty much done, aside from probably GTA V since they stated their not bringing it to next gen. If it was decided to bring it to next gen then I would buy it, but right now my only time with the Defiance universe was with the game and the time I enjoyed in beta and the show when it premieres later this month.

You sound confused, you know your PS3 won't stop working when the PS4 comes out right? It also won't be out until the earliest this September so I am pretty sure you could get your monies worth by then?

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[SSlarg]

I will play this on my ps3 long into forever-land

I totally agree.

[MstrJedi_Kyle]

After the RRoD issues from the Xbox360 and the weak launch titles and high price issues from the PS3 I have a feeling that quite a few gamers will be slow to make the transition into next gen.

[DJTrig]

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But they gonna, at least sort of MMO FPS- very similiar in some concept to Defiance btw
Destiny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EwOUi4JDC4o

From a devs standpoint, why should they care if you are still playing game half year after release and after your purchase. Its not like there is subscription or store full of shining goodies in Defiance to keep you paying. You payed, you played now you can go now.
Or swap to PC - with playerbase of much longer lifespan

Destiny sounds more like Halo with Guild wars towns.Also the dev's do want you to keep playing so you can keep buying DLC and they also do have a store full of shiny goodies.