DLC=BS -should be free

[Lakkiada]

...Before anything else, The DLC shouldnt be free, no... The 'free' part of the DLC shouldve been lessened, with much more on the 'Paid' side of it... A new area for DLC-only, with its own Dark Arks + Sieges. While keeping the Pursuits the way they are (forcing any who wishes to complete Siege pursuits to buy the DLC). This way works, the "forcing" issue, since the EGO gained from Siege pursuits is null right now, and most likely in the future.


Of course there are new problems. It appears your reaction is what really needs an overhaul, not the game.

PvP - Queue for MA only. New content, its all that people want to play right now (IDK why, as its got Lighting issues and half the building openings, you cant go though)... Other then that i think its just been no one is playing any other map. If theres more to it and you cant even play that, well, thats beyond me.

Sieges/Arkfalls - Yeah, they were going to be a joke... All those people, and you think it wouldnt be easy? Wait a month when groups hitting these have shrunk down to 15-25 people. It will still be easy enough, but tougher. AND, we knew Arks had the Green Boost thing, so OF COURSE it was going to be easy when theres 50 people there with 1/4 of then doing Boosted dmg.

Castithan's - we knew it was just a skin, plain and simple. Nothing more.

Raptor/Turret - Everyones been saying its TRASH since Alpha 3 weeks ago... and the Turret issue has been argued to death between players and CM's. Yes, i do believe it had a turret, and they took it out. It was probably for performance issues. AGAIN we knew from the beginning of ALPHA it had no turret. Let the turret whining die already.

Charge Weaps/Blades - I never saw much use in them in the 1st place. Theres no specific Skill for them, and we have better weapons already. I guess its fun for some people to hack and slash. But think if you could run and slash... Blur Blades would rule PvP, and thats plain dumb. I play shooters to shoot, not to get stabbed/slashed all game long.

Mods - More of the same, Alpha showed us the reduction. Live with it... be more enraged about Lockboxes. They get nerfed, then buffed, then nerfed, and now a buff for T4's... makes sense.

Arenas - I believe it was stated Arenas for co-op were messed up. Better to pull co-op arenas and have them work properly Solo, then to strand the people who ACTUALLY paid for Arenas with no arenas like you hadnt paid... They will be co-op in time, probably pulled for Performance and/or difficulty not increasing.

Bank/Mail - No need for mail firstly. We have a forums, and PS3/360 both have their own mssging systems. Most clans have their own forums/FB account, so theres communication there. How much more do you need?... Banks are looked at every meeting theyve said, but whish would you rather have: A~MA map lighting/invisible walls fixed. or B~Hooray we have banks!... It gets de-prioritized, but they are looking at a system to bank.

There should be a lot more paid content, yes. That's the point of this discussion. What they did add was so minor, it should be a free update. Trion should be rewarding its customers/players for continued play.

[Chevota]

Also, $10 of content isnt much anyways... 3-5 different maps on most multiplayer games (Halo/COD specifically from my exp, but im sure Battlefield is in the same boat)... Even in story, take Borderlands 2. Was Dragons Keep REALLY that much content for $10? Sure it was great story and fun but you can literally burn through it in a day or 2 with little to no replayability.

The DLC was more for Free then Paid, ive said that from the very 1st details it gave out. But thats why i added the beginning part to the prev post, for how it Shouldve been...

All in all, i think people expect too much from games for the price it costs to go out and have a solo fast food meal lol. (No one in specific here, just in general)

[Newat]

Glad I am not the only one who feels this way and noticed these things. I quit playing after the virus and came back to see what my purchase of the pass got me and how things have been since then.

[Lakkiada]

Also, $10 of content isnt much anyways... 3-5 different maps on most multiplayer games (Halo/COD specifically from my exp, but im sure Battlefield is in the same boat)... Even in story, take Borderlands 2. Was Dragons Keep REALLY that much content for $10? Sure it was great story and fun but you can literally burn through it in a day or 2 with little to no replayability.

The DLC was more for Free then Paid, ive said that from the very 1st details it gave out. But thats why i added the beginning part to the prev post, for how it Shouldve been...

All in all, i think people expect too much from games for the price it costs to go out and have a solo fast food meal lol. (No one in specific here, just in general)

I agree, except some of us paid 50-60$ for the game on release plus pre-ordered the season pass for 30-40$.
So, take the amount of content and look at 30-40$ worth? no way. 10$ ok I guess, but 40$?!
I admit this was the first game I've ever ordered DLC's or season pass for. Again, I knew it was a gamble from the start due to being based on a tv show. Guess we'll have to see if Destiny and The Division can live up to the hype.. let's hope and pray!!!!

[RAD_ED]

On the money. I truly hope the devs read this thread. Hell, offer this guy a consulting job.
A+

Naw They will just lock it.

[Snake Eyes]

Naw They will just lock it.

Hope your wrong they need to here the word of the PLAYERS also they need to play some other MMOs like Star Trek Online witch gives players content for FREE and a LOT at that!!!

Also its GREAT CONTENT not this crap they give use on Defiance. If they would have done what they said at E3 I be happy and stand with them but I am Mad right now I feel cheated.

I really want this game to make it I really do with all my heart, I want to say its a honor to play but right now it is not even close I feel its only to get my money and that's ALL!!!!

[Tekrunner]

I agree, except some of us paid 50-60$ for the game on release plus pre-ordered the season pass for 30-40$.
So, take the amount of content and look at 30-40$ worth? no way. 10$ ok I guess, but 40$?!

You're aware that this was only the first DLC, and that you will get 4 more for that 30-40$, right? The DLC on its own does in fact sell for 10$.

[Xaaz]

I don't mind the DLC. I've seen much better, I've seen worse. However, the Volge sieges should have been under the paid category. The arkfalls would be much tougher to code unless they were added into a new area, but they could have phased those as well to be DLC only.

[Lakkiada]

You're aware that this was only the first DLC, and that you will get 4 more for that 30-40$, right? The DLC on its own does in fact sell for 10$.

Yup, I purchased the season pass for 30 or 40$, don't remember exactly. Anyhow, if you take this dlc x 4, still equates to a little more than nothing. They really didn't add ANY content. The sieges have the same 3 volge mobs we've been fighting for a few months. How come there aren't hell bug sieges, and scrapper sieges and so on..?! There are no new area's to explore, no new missions.. Sorry the siege "mission" and arena "missions" don't count. They only require you to complete the instance. That is hardly new content as they promised and advertised.

The Dark Matter Ark fall was a nice add but, there is way too much downtime in it.

[Jice Corvus]

Mostly complete nonsense.

I've literally no idea how you spent that much time in the pvp queue with only one game popping. Is your playtime between 1 and 6 am?

Charge blades are great, and quickly becoming my favorite killing method in pvp. Each swing gives you a short lunge period, and 30-50% of my kills come from my blade now in pvp on observatory.

Casti's look a lot prettier than iraths or humans from what I've seen.

The truck needs a boost, and thats about all we agree on. Oh and the stash would be nice too, but it would undermine their revenue stream.