General discussion: PC VS Mac

[dirtyklingon]

Macbook Pros carry the same hardware as the equivalent laptop in it's class. The price difference comes from paying for premium casing and warranty. That's where the 400+ dollar difference shines. If you drop your 800 dollar Lenovo, you ain't getting jack **** from them if you didn't spend the extra 150 dollars on accidental. (They still charge you by the way) If you did the same with a Macbook Pro, they'd exchange it no questions asked assuming it's broken to pieces. Has their warranty/CS hit the dirt recently? Yeah. I don't think they're worth the premium price anymore. It's all about expectations. I never purchase RAM/GPU/CPU upgrades from the OEM (Apple or otherwise) because I know how to work on my machines. For people where time/money isn't an issue, Macs are fantastic.

Take your anecdotes elsewhere.

lenovos are known for being rugged as ****. they are the ak47's of the laptop segment.

where as macbooks have a glass screen that is known for cracking from drops that are less than 2 feet.


also for GPU upgrades to a mac, you have to buy hardware with a line of code added to their UEFI which osx will detect on boot and say "yes this piece of hardware is ok". apple charges hardware vendors an exhorbant fee to add that line of code. which is why a video card that is osx compatible will be hundreds of dollars higher than the exact same hardware which is not osx compatible.

[atlantix]

one of my friend recently made a new intel pc
he was manage to also install MacOs in it

so whenever he wants to play game he starts windows
whenever he has to work or design something he starts the MacOs


as gaming wise pc is better
for work related and design related issues i think mac has the edge..

mac and win at the end its samething with different software options..

i won't mind facing a mac user, pc user or console user in any game.. hardware can give you lil bit edge but not much.. its all about the skillz

[GT3000]

Hmmm, pretty odd. Laptop came with a 2-year warranty and thought I needed Apple Care for the MAC? I suppose I shall take my anecdotes elsewhere since you don't find them all that amusing.

Assuming she is the original purchaser, Apple Care should still apply to her. I think the price is fairly decent for the comprehensiveness of the plan. It just depends on your needs. Though if her computer was going to fail, it was going to happen in the first 12 months. Macbooks are easy to work on, upgrade the internals.

[WaGzy]

Just trying to get these GIF's to work....

[GT3000]

lenovos are known for being rugged as ****. they are the ak47's of the laptop segment.

where as macbooks have a glass screen that is known for cracking from drops that are less than 2 feet.


also for GPU upgrades to a mac, you have to buy hardware with a line of code added to their UEFI which osx will detect on boot and say "yes this piece of hardware is ok". apple charges hardware vendors an exhorbant fee to add that line of code. which is why a video card that is osx compatible will be hundreds of dollars higher than the exact same hardware which is not osx compatible.

When you work on upgrading a Mac you are taken under the assuming that you will be using a modded BIOS otherwise you have no business opening it in the first place. This issue isn't exclusive to Apple either. Lenovo whitelists their wifi cards for example and I've had to mod BIOS to accept third party (and better) wificards.

You're thinking of Thinkpads not Lenovos in general by the way. My Y480 Ideapad is great but it's a fragile piece of consumer trash. Pretty though.

[HansKisaragi]

Mac is overpriced "closed hardware".

PC is cheap Open hardware in comparison.

PC has DirectX (with Windows)
Mac has OpenGL (with OS X)

PC is made for everything
Mac is made for Designing and web surfing and media works

[JustAHermit]

Assuming she is the original purchaser, Apple Care should still apply to her. I think the price is fairly decent for the comprehensiveness of the plan. It just depends on your needs. Though if her computer was going to fail, it was going to happen in the first 12 months. Macbooks are easy to work on, upgrade the internals.

And man, a laptop of equal hardware is $900 in price difference, that's one hell of a premium... Actually, I can't even say equal with only a 1440x900 resolution on the MAC and lesser GPU...

[ExcuseMyMandarin]

Macbook Pros carry the same hardware as the equivalent laptop in it's class. The price difference comes from paying for premium casing and warranty. That's where the 400+ dollar difference shines. If you drop your 800 dollar Lenovo, you ain't getting jack **** from them if you didn't spend the extra 150 dollars on accidental. (They still charge you by the way) If you did the same with a Macbook Pro, they'd exchange it no questions asked assuming it's broken to pieces. Has their warranty/CS hit the dirt recently? Yeah. I don't think they're worth the premium price anymore. It's all about expectations. I never purchase RAM/GPU/CPU upgrades from the OEM (Apple or otherwise) because I know how to work on my machines. For people where time/money isn't an issue, Macs are fantastic.

Take your anecdotes elsewhere.

P.S. Next time don't preface an opinion with "I'm not too knowledgable" it really hurts what you have to say by completely discrediting yourself.

The warranty of Mac's are **** now, don't even try to defend it. On the paper it might seem good, but in the real world, its the same **** that Asus, Lenovo and all other companies have.

And by the way, this might be her, and her only but a friend of mine had this problem 2 years ago:
She got a mac from her mother as a birthday present. It works fine for about 2 weeks, then the HDD goes unstable and it stops working. As she has only had it for two weeks, she sends it in for service, knowing 2 weeks is within the 2 year warranty. After 2 months, she gets a mail, stating it was her fault. As they could not find a reason why the HDD would stop working. She had 2 choices:
1. Pay about 250 USD (1300,- NOK) to get it back, nothing done with it.
2. Pay 600 USD to change the HDD (3500,- NOK)

She did not have the money for the second choice at the time, let it be and forgot it. (The Mac just sitting at the store, doing nothing) She got a reply a month after I met her (we met during boot camp in the military) I had a look at it, send a mail stating it could not be her fault and so on. Because there were no marks, what so ever on it. She got it back a few weeks later, (a week before bootcamp ended) with a broken screen. After 2 months or so of complaining she sent it back and got a new screen. Total it took a year from she got it, to she could use it for more then 2 weeks. As I said, this could only be her, be unlucky. But shows that Apple does not have the best warranty.

For those who care;
Macbook worth about 1200 USD at the time (Keep in mind, Norway is expensive!)

[GT3000]

And man, a laptop of equal hardware is $900 in price difference, that's one hell of a premium... Actually, I can't even say equal with only a 1440x900 resolution on the MAC and lesser GPU...

When? Seriously. Show me.

[JustAHermit]

When? Seriously. Show me.

http://www.amazon.com/G55VW-ES71-15-...words=asus+g55

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-...le+MD104LL%2FA