What about us Mac users?

[Mad]

Developing anything for limited platforms today is folly.

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This isn't 1999 where the Windows market rules supreme and anything else is irrelevant minority.

1999 = top of line maxed out gameing liquid cooled PC no OS with monitor and peripherals approx 2300 USD OS cost 100-500USD
Top of line Mac ^4000USD

People buy computers and devices for convenience, and that includes everything they do with these devices (NOT just games).

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That said, developers should be factoring Tablets into the complete gaming experience as well, whether it is simply as a game-enhancement feature or developing a game in a way where part (or all) of the game can be experienced on a tablet client. For example, imagine that you could craft on a device client, so you could focus on more robust parts of a game when playing on your computer or console?

Its a shooter .. 2 hands 1 game.. if i had third hand i would be concerned about being able to use secondary hardware to do stuff like crafting .. but why bother when its already ingame and easily accessible when i don't need 2 hands...

That said, ruling out one of the fastest growing computer and device markets is sheer laziness and demonstrates a disconnect with the consumer market...

trolololol

It's no mystery that some of the most successful game populations were built for both Mac and PC platforms.

like .. 1% or less of the ^30000 games?

Food for thought. Bootcamp is a choice, but it requires Mac users to pay Microsoft's ludicrous pricetag for an operating system that they would use for nothing more than a game or two. Consider also that dual boot or virtualized Operating Systems eat up a substantial portion of the HD, and with SSD technology being the preference moving forward for improved performance (and SSD capacity is still quite limited compared to spinning counterparts), disk space currently is precious.

hence while real gamers who are willing to risk fledgling tech like SSD also put real HD in thier systems for the extra drive space.

I prefer the OSX/iOS environment. I used to run Bootcamp, but I don't bother anymore partly for reasons listed above. Quite honestly, there is enough game variety available for the Mac to suit my needs whether through dedicated or a Cider Port client.

so .. you came here specifically to troll on about macs ...
i get it now

Anything that doesn't offer an option doesn't get my attention any further than reading the system requirements (and posting my opinion on platform deployment on a forum .

yup trolling

I'm not the only Mac user that feels this way. I can live without a shiny new title in favour of something that supports my preferences.

So you have been very clear its not your cup of tea. Other then trolling was there an actual point to this?

I'm sure it's a wonderful game. Success will ultimately be determined by player retention and population. It's up to the game designers and developers to ensure they have a wide enough reach to make that happen for those of you who are very excited about this game.

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.... so the general gist is your too cheap to buy a PC for gaming and you need your mac for work. I can understand that. FYI you can pick up some real nice used gaming rigs at auctions. Dell for example has a sweet business where they sell you the rig then repossess it because of some obscure contract notation and auction it off on thier website. A friend of mine actually bought a 5000USD gaming rig from them used it for 3 months, gave it back to them and paid the default.. then bought his own rig back for 150USD .. all told he paid a total of 1400USD for a 5k retail value system and only went without it for 5 weeks ...

Or kick the hubby off his machine for a couple hours each day and use his ..

Now that the troll has been stepped on .....

You have to be aware that unfortunately due to the tie-in with the TV show the developers didn't even have enough time to properly develop for the 3 platforms they did. Viewed from this perspective and the fact they are gonna be playing catchup for the next year on stuff that should have been done before the game release .. i don't forsee a mac version in the near future. I would reccomend bootcamp and picking up a secondhand copy of XP or 7 to run with it If nothing else just goto a repair shop and buy a 2 year old tower for 100$ just to get the install key for the OS download an image of the OS, then install linux on the tower

SIDE NOTE: mac machines are MOSTLY superior to pc's EXCEPT where games are concerned Doing animation/CGI graphics/ architectural design or just downright using it for a workhorse to crunch numbers are usually better when done on mac. But the main reason there was never aanyinterest in the gaming industry is simple .. since "Macintosh Apple" first came out it was preposterously expensive when compared to any of the competitors. After the components became cheap to manufacture the prices STILL did not go down. 20 years later same thing .. cost of manufacture/shipping/retail/tax/tarrifs etc all added up to less then 1% of retail value ... The commision i got from selling macs in late 80's was so ridiculas i could sell 2 macs and buy a PC with the commision.
In a world built of disposable everything INCLUDING operating systems .. why would you buy a mac for gaming when 3 years later you would have to buy another for the new games ...

[ExcuseMyMandarin]

I'm sure Mac users are too busy looking for jobs. Just kidding.

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I think there would probably be a Mac version or maybe the "PC" version is just fancy talk for "computer"

Really, I don't care to much if they let mac users play the game, Mac isnt designed for gaming, neither is it specced for gaming.

But sadly enough got a few friends that do own a mac, so I will admit that it would be smart of them, as there are some mac users. But Mac does not have a lot of users. Mac is about 5% (that only own a Mac) so they might not prioritize it.

[peekayboo]

Its going to be a year or more wait for linx,mac.64bit clients but thats the price of using mac or linx and unless you get 20,000+ mac users to say they want it's not gonna happen sooner

[JohnMcClane]

Mac is an awesome work horse.
PC is an all rounder.

They both are superior in there own way .
Loving PC&MAC in a non emotional way

Boot camp until PC Gaming gets cannibalized by Xbox than all Unix based will have a shot at the crown.

[Excession]

I certainly seem to have gotten your attention... I so love agressive Mac haters. Obviously, you do care (or you wouldn't have bothered to post).

So tell me, why do you so hate growing the accessibility of software to include platforms other than Windows?

For the record, I could care less if I could buy this game. As stated before, I have many other options to choose from. I just love putting in my 2 cents every time a software company fails to acknowledge market trends

Market Trends? really?

Units sold PC wise number in the hundreds of millions for the year, as opposed to mac units sold being in the hundreds of thousands (worldwide for both).

Taking those figures into account, how is Trion not following market trends?

If you are talking about the increase in ios use, sure, market trends show a huge increase in users of ios compared to previous years, but that is all down to mobile and pad sales, it has little, if anything to do with PC v Mac use.

Nice strawman you have though.

[Guyonbench]

What I want to know, is why are people still complaining about macs.
Either you have bootcamp and will be playing the game on your mac, OR you have a mac AND a PC that you'll be playing the game on, OR you only have a mac and refuse to use bootcamp which leaves me wondering why your still here on the forums other then to try to stir things up.

[WaGzy]

how do I put GIFs into a post..? I can only get the link to come up... I swear to god it's relevant to this thread

[Harsk]

Macs are so freaking expensive that us regular folks cannot afford them, so we are stuck with PC and because we are a vast majority makes sense to make PC games instead of Mac's

Stuck with? I wouldn't take a Mac over a PC for anything.

[Quirky]

May be an old Thread, But if you've got a Mac that's what you get for paying for an Overpriced White Box.

Macs are great for Graphics and Music, Terrible for Games.

But Still, PC's <3 I'll be enjoying Defiance on mine because I made the right Choice

[rathb18]

Mac's are for people who need a basic and simple OS, windows is for people who wan't anything and everything. People are just wrong when they say mac's are best for design because back in high school I did Photoshop and 3ds max, Bryce, blender, vue 3d and tons of other programs for audio and video, and they all worked great on PC. Nobody had any issues or complained. Heck if you ever watch "the making of" video on dvd's there all using PC for 3d graphics, Even schools have completely switch to PC. I don't think I have even see a mac in the last few years, not at school, work, friends, nowhere.