What about us Mac users?

[Harcon]

Why would it come out on a sandwich from McDonalds??

haha, I thought mac users could run games through bootcamp?

[lPATT]

people still use mac??????

[DuoMaxwell007]

So you pretty much have it on all platforms except the Mac and I know the Mac is capable as I play games on it all the time. I am disappointed to see it not on the list of platforms and think it's not fair to us who choose not to use windows. I don't have a PS3 or an XBOX so that means I can't enjoy the full amazing idea of this show and game. I hope you guys reconsider and put out a Mac version.

two words for you:

BOOT

CAMP

[Portabella]

Developing anything for limited platforms today is folly. This isn't 1999 where the Windows market rules supreme and anything else is irrelevant minority. People buy computers and devices for convenience, and that includes everything they do with these devices (NOT just games). That said, developers should be factoring Tablets into the complete gaming experience as well, whether it is simply as a game-enhancement feature or developing a game in a way where part (or all) of the game can be experienced on a tablet client. For example, imagine that you could craft on a device client, so you could focus on more robust parts of a game when playing on your computer or console?

That said, ruling out one of the fastest growing computer and device markets is sheer laziness and demonstrates a disconnect with the consumer market. I don't care who likes or hates Macs, the fact is, they are growing in popularity largely because their iOS market dominates, and those devices integrate seamlessly with their computer platform. In the next decade, there is a strong possibility that if the market remains status quo, there will be a larger number of OSX users than has already grown in the past half decade, and it will be a percentage that challenges Windows substantially. If a game plans to still run its' client at that time (in other words, become a successful game), then it should be developed with present and future hardware trends in mind.

It's no mystery that some of the most successful game populations were built for both Mac and PC platforms. Food for thought. Bootcamp is a choice, but it requires Mac users to pay Microsoft's ludicrous pricetag for an operating system that they would use for nothing more than a game or two. Consider also that dual boot or virtualized Operating Systems eat up a substantial portion of the HD, and with SSD technology being the preference moving forward for improved performance (and SSD capacity is still quite limited compared to spinning counterparts), disk space currently is precious.

I prefer the OSX/iOS environment. I used to run Bootcamp, but I don't bother anymore partly for reasons listed above. Quite honestly, there is enough game variety available for the Mac to suit my needs whether through dedicated or a Cider Port client. Anything that doesn't offer an option doesn't get my attention any further than reading the system requirements (and posting my opinion on platform deployment on a forum . I'm not the only Mac user that feels this way. I can live without a shiny new title in favour of something that supports my preferences.

I'm sure it's a wonderful game. Success will ultimately be determined by player retention and population. It's up to the game designers and developers to ensure they have a wide enough reach to make that happen for those of you who are very excited about this game.

[Kantazo]

Macs are so freaking expensive that us regular folks cannot afford them, so we are stuck with PC and because we are a vast majority makes sense to make PC games instead of Mac's

[Portabella]

Macs are so freaking expensive that us regular folks cannot afford them, so we are stuck with PC and because we are a vast majority makes sense to make PC games instead of Mac's

So, what you are really saying is that you can't afford a computer that is designed, built and retailed in its' brand-new state with current hardware components? This would also mean that you probably aren't sporting an Ivory Bridge based processor in your current PC with 1666 Mhz speed RAM and that your graphics card probably isn't the latest and greatest either (or at the very least, current)? I'm also going to go ahead and assume that at best, you probably also sport at best a 7200 RPM Hard Drive.

It's true, you can buy cheap PCs at Best Buy, Future Shop, or have one buit with random components but take a look at what's under the hood of those machines. Do a bit of research, and you'll find out that some (and sometimes all) of those machines are built with technology as much as 5 years out of date. Not surprising, it is users of systems such as these that consistently plague the Tech Support Forums of games with a myriad of issues including graphics stutter, poor framerate performance, error codes and more.

You actually "can" afford to buy Macs for bargain prices as well. These would be used or refurbished machines that sport similar pricetags and warranties that you would get for a similarly-built windows-based machine. If the idea of buying refurbished bothers you, think again about that "deal" you find on your PC, because most often of the reason PC machines and parts has a low pricetags is because they are built using refurbished parts (and you as a consumer don't realize this), or they are several generations out of date. For example, the i7 processor has gone through several generations (Nehelem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge, Ivory Bridge, etc.), and each generation increment has brought faster speeds, supports better and faster ram and other components, and overall makes a huge difference to the computing experience. Some people boast that they have an i7, but if it's a Nehelem processor, it's going to under-perform an i5 Ivory Bridge processor by a longshot.

Working in the hardware retail market for the past couple of years has taught me a bit about how this industry works. At the end of the day, dollar for dollar consumers end up paying the same price for Intel-based hardware. Whether it runs Mac OS, Windows or Linux is irrelevant. You pay for what you get. It doesn't get any more simple than that.

[Kantazo]

So, what you are really saying is that you can't afford a computer that is designed, built and retailed in its' brand-new state with current hardware components? This would also mean that you probably aren't sporting an Ivory Bridge based processor in your current PC with 1666 Mhz speed RAM and that your graphics card probably isn't the latest and greatest either? I'm also going to go ahead and assume that at best, you probably also sport at best a 7200 RPM Hard Drive.

It's true, you can buy cheap PCs at Best Buy, Future Shop, or have one buit with random components but take a look at what's under the hood of machines. Do a bit of research, and you'll find out that some (and sometimes all) of those machines are built with technology as much as 5 years out of date. Not surprising, it is users of systems such as these that consistently plague the Tech Support Forums of games with a myriad of issues including graphics stutter, poor framerate performance, error codes and more.

You actually "can" afford to buy Macs for bargain prices as well. These would be used or refurbished machines that sport similar pricetags and warranties that you would get for a similarly-built windows-based machine. If the idea of buying refurbished bothers you, think again about that "deal" you find on your PC, because very often one of the reasons PC machines have low pricetags is because they are built using refurbished parts (and you as a consumer don't realize this).

Working in the hardware retail market for the past couple of years has taught me a bit about how this industry works. At the end of the day, dollar for dollar consumers end up paying the same price for Intel-based hardware. Whether it runs Mac OS, Windows or Linux is irrelevant. You pay for what you get. It doesn't get any more simple than that.

In few words, you love Mac and hate PC, I love PC and hate Mac

[Lucid]

I am always a little shocked when I learn people still purchase Mac products.

[GongStar]

I know a lot of people that spend money on macs but I know of no one that buys them and expects to play real games...

[Portabella]

In few words, you love Mac and hate PC, I love PC and hate Mac

I'm going to confound you. I have no passion for one or the other. As a designer/developer by day my profession uses a number of different systems including Windows, Linux and OSX machines. As a part time job (for fun), I work for a computer/device retailer. As a result, I have a very interesting perspective on the trends in this market landscape.

I have developed a preference for Mac/iOS systems for my personal use simply because they are more convenient. Everything works well together and the Windows market doesn't offer anything that compares currently in terms of stability, reliability, hardware variety for entertainment and the multitude of Tablet to Systems apps that integrate with my devices and entertainment systems. As a result, I stopped buying PCs for myself, but my husband still prefers his Alienware notebook machine because all he does with his computer is Game. I do far, far more than that with mine. My husband also paid a much higher price tag than I paid for my 2011 MacBook Pro brand new. It was closer in price after I upgraded it to a OCZ Vertex 4 series SSD and upgraded the RAM to 16GB, while he still sports 8GB of RAM and a spinning HD.

My argument simply points out that the hardware is the same pricetag no matter what operating system runs on it. If you hate Macs, go out and buy yourself a similarly built Windows or Linux based system, but at the end of the day you're going to pay the same price for the hardware. You will however, pay much, much more for your operating system and software on a Windows OS system than you ever will for a Linux or Mac OS based system. OS Upgrades for Linux are free, and for MacOS they are $20, and software is generally a fraction of the price when not free, with a lot more variety, with the sole exception of games and localized enterprise level accounting systems.

The gaming and financial accounting industries are the only software solutions that have limited variety in these operating system environments. I personally believe that this is because historically, Windows has been the dominating Operating System and was for at least two decades. The reality is that this user landscape is rapidly and dramatically changing to one where many individuals for personal use are choosing systems with operating systems other than windows, and in many cases, they aren't buying personal computers at all anymore... they're buying tablets. One quick peek at statistics of the trends of all internet browsing over the past two years points this out elegantly. I can also say that from my experience in the retail segment of computer and tablet sales in recent years that this is indeed very much the trend moving forward and to ignore it spells out disaster for software development companies.

I predict that any software development company that creates games or accounting software this decade and does so with tablet and operating system variety will be the companies that dominate the market moving forward. Let's have this discussion again in 10 years... I'm sure it will be interesting