September going to kill Defiance

[RevJynxed]

Yep the only numbers are on the NA servers because they are consolidating there. NA servers are the last of the player base.

[TexasUncle]

I know everyone is saying that next week will mark the beginning of the end for defiance, I don't think it will come to that just yet, but a lot of players, and I mean a lot will disappear when GTA5 comes out, me included for a while anyway, but the faithful will keep going strong and these are the players that will keep the game going for a while longer.

[joseph021775]

It will not be just one game, many of the titles mentioned are just the big name examples. It's going to be a gradual increase in so many new games that appeal to people, new systems, and frustration over the issues. No one thing is going to erode the player base it's really just the nature of gaming itself, we gamers can be a fickle bunch and some will stay some will go, others will play when they hear something new happened, they'll pop on play the new content (if it works lol) and then go do something else. I played ME3's multiplayer for example since launch and it went from being easy to find a game to you may get lucky and get two in a night and even then it got to be the same exact names over and over. What killed that was the fact support pretty much stopped and it was said nothing new was ever going to come out. Trion says there will be more but so far just from what we have seen they have just added a new Arkfall, and Sieges and when you have done all the main story, co-op maps, and side missions what is really left? By the time a new part of the main story and new side stuff has been added most will jump right in and finish it fast, and then tou are back to just doing the same things you were before. And if the game like the show goes by "seasons" are people willing to wait on a game that only adds new story once a year and then just relies on tweaking Arkfalls to keep a dwindling player base? It will either be interesting to see how his turns out or just sad.

[Bob Blunderbust]

I just tried the xbox demo of diablo 3 and I gota say it doesn't look as good on xbox and its just as boring

torchlight 2 would be a much greater game than diablo 3 that's the game that shoulda came to xbox 360 and xbox one

gta 5 looks cool and id probly play that over defiance but id still pop in once and a while to see new stuff and after playing gta might try to take other peoples cars in game lmao

[four]

Yup Diablo 3 demo bored the crap put of me I literally walked around and pressed A for everything. Open,press a. Attack, press a. Talk, press a. REALLY...

[lil frier]

It will not be just one game, many of the titles mentioned are just the big name examples. It's going to be a gradual increase in so many new games that appeal to people, new systems, and frustration over the issues. No one thing is going to erode the player base it's really just the nature of gaming itself, we gamers can be a fickle bunch and some will stay some will go, others will play when they hear something new happened, they'll pop on play the new content (if it works lol) and then go do something else. I played ME3's multiplayer for example since launch and it went from being easy to find a game to you may get lucky and get two in a night and even then it got to be the same exact names over and over. What killed that was the fact support pretty much stopped and it was said nothing new was ever going to come out. Trion says there will be more but so far just from what we have seen they have just added a new Arkfall, and Sieges and when you have done all the main story, co-op maps, and side missions what is really left? By the time a new part of the main story and new side stuff has been added most will jump right in and finish it fast, and then tou are back to just doing the same things you were before. And if the game like the show goes by "seasons" are people willing to wait on a game that only adds new story once a year and then just relies on tweaking Arkfalls to keep a dwindling player base? It will either be interesting to see how his turns out or just sad.

I think it's more the nature of CONSOLE gaming that will be the problem. Over on PC, there are enough good MMOs (WoW, ToR, plus the impending ESO for starters), so Defiance doesn't have a whole lot going for it in that genre in the first place. However, consoles don't have a real MMO experience. It COULD survive as the go-to option on consoles, except it released in an awkward position. There is no backwards compatibility with the Xbox One, so as people migrate to that platform, the game will simply lose people CAPABLE of playing it, due to hardware changes. MMOs can survive better on PCs because of expansion packs and an unchanging hardware platform, but consoles do not have that benefit.

[Qoh Helethe]

lol--u dont like the game but u still on the forums ---LOL

I think this daily... I would say a good 90% of the post I read.

[Qoh Helethe]

Due to the fact that Defiance is not subscription based, I don't see a correlation between server traffic and game longevity. People who have the game already paid for it. As long as Trion doesn't lose Dodge, Axe, and SyFy as sponsors then they could keep the servers running as ghost towns indefinitely. They will do more specials (i.e. $9.99, Rift extras, etc...) to attract new customers, who will be unaware of the plague of issues that discouraged other players. Then Season 2 comes out and there will be another influx of new players. Since Defiance's model is relatively unique, there aren't many precedents to use as a guide to predict the future of the game.

Currently, I think regardless of the issues, the game will be around as long as the show. They were conceived and manifested as a package deal, so I'm sure it was pitched that way. Of course publishers like SyFy can always change their tune, but at the moment Season 2 is filming and is set to air in June I believe.

[joseph021775]

I think it's more the nature of CONSOLE gaming that will be the problem. Over on PC, there are enough good MMOs (WoW, ToR, plus the impending ESO for starters), so Defiance doesn't have a whole lot going for it in that genre in the first place. However, consoles don't have a real MMO experience. It COULD survive as the go-to option on consoles, except it released in an awkward position. There is no backwards compatibility with the Xbox One, so as people migrate to that platform, the game will simply lose people CAPABLE of playing it, due to hardware changes. MMOs can survive better on PCs because of expansion packs and an unchanging hardware platform, but consoles do not have that benefit.

I have to agree there, until I think it was the end of 2011 I was pretty much a PC gamer for the most part. Consoles are in many ways a new medium for the MMO and there can be a ton of issues as we have seen with this game that can arise. Now to to get a good debate going would Defiance have worked better if it had just been a one platform title? On PC what often keeps any game going if the company allows it is community expansions, NWN and Skyrim come to mind for longevity due to the many mods that were made by players. I do see an issue with ESO when it hits mainly for the console players, who is going to want a subscription based game on a console? If we think the Defiance forums have a lot of complaining wait until people who pay monthly to play get started. While there is a market for MMO games on consoles it would almost be better to either make them exclusive to one system, or just two not 3 different platforms.

[joseph021775]

Due to the fact that Defiance is not subscription based, I don't see a correlation between server traffic and game longevity. People who have the game already paid for it. As long as Trion doesn't lose Dodge, Axe, and SyFy as sponsors then they could keep the servers running as ghost towns indefinitely. They will do more specials (i.e. $9.99, Rift extras, etc...) to attract new customers, who will be unaware of the plague of issues that discouraged other players. Then Season 2 comes out and there will be another influx of new players. Since Defiance's model is relatively unique, there aren't many precedents to use as a guide to predict the future of the game.

Currently, I think regardless of the issues, the game will be around as long as the show. They were conceived and manifested as a package deal, so I'm sure it was pitched that way. Of course publishers like SyFy can always change their tune, but at the moment Season 2 is filming and is set to air in June I believe.

First I fully agree there is no real precedent for a game and show tie in and as long as SyFy keeps the show going the game will keep on. Second it only takes a little research to find out what all of the issues are, but at the price of 19.99 or 9.99 for PC people will try it out because it's no real loss. Third I can see it staying around as a PC game as long as the show keeps going. Microsoft will eventually once the new Xbox starts selling pull support for the 360. My comments on player base going away, stem mainly from just how gaming and gamers are especially on a console. There is always another big new game about to hit and the systems themselves have a shelf life, a PC is where many games find longevity, take NWN for example Gamespy just now stopped listing the servers for it, the servers while privately held can still be connected to and that game is over a decade old. Defiance can last it is just going to take Trion getting the issues under control and getting some interesting content in. I do not know how tied their hands are with what they can do but just from reading all of the back story there is a lot that can be done that would not give away spoilers on the show. Despite the server issues I still like the game and will keep grinding away lol, I wasn't disappointed with the DLC either mainly because I didn't buy it in truth the free content was enough and well I really did not want that damn truck at all.