September going to kill Defiance

[ten4]

I have yet to meet a person who was able to tell me honestly that, at no point in their time of playing WoW, did they ever play only because it was what their friends were playing and not because they were actually enjoying playing WoW.

It's the Facebook of MMOs. They're filthy rich and the business model worked, but that doesn't mean it's something a fan of video games should applaud.

So it's like smoking and peer pressure. LMAO. Sorry man, that's just baloney and you are making stuff up. I had some awesome times in WoW and so did my 200+ player guild as well. No one, and I mean no one is going to play something they truly hate for years on end just because their 'friends' did. Me, I dun log into defiance no more. There is no point; NOTHING CHANGES OR IMPROVES. It's literally the same game I beta tested nearly 8 months ago. This is ok when it comes to SP titles but for an MMO? That is not acceptable.

[Valdrane78]

Yea man, WoW is total fail. It being the most played MMO of all time, with 12+ mill subs at it's height clearly means it's a terrible game no one plays like say...Defiance.

To funny, my bet is you either never played WoW or you did but only for a few months at most.



I played 7+ years, it just got to old honestly but I have no regrets. Their standards are 1000x higher than Trion will ever have and that's for sure.

I played since day one, hell it's how I met my wife. I've had 4 different accounts, and been there for every expac released. The problem being, that each expac is almost exactly like the last. The game has not evolved all that much, it's stagnated in terms of gameplay and world. Sure they add a new race here or there, and a new area to quest in but the gameplay hasn't changed all that much and neither have the mechanics.

There is no balance, only new "of the moment" classes in PvP, with a few classes being far beyond that of others. The proof is there. 1.8 million customers lost in a month or so. That's almost $27 million a month lost in revenue. PEopel are speaking, will BLizzard listen, I doubt it.

[ten4]

Posters like you use statistics like drunks use lamp posts. Stability>Illumination.

If I had 1% of the money blizz has taken in from wow, I wouldn't be here replying to trolls like you. Blizz set a benchmark that no one has surpassed as of yet. You can discount that all you want but fact remains that game is still pretty damn successful.

[The Darkness]

If I had 1% of the money blizz has taken in from wow, I wouldn't be here replying to wanna be trolls like you.

ya, for real eh?

[Xaearth]

So it's like smoking and peer pressure. LMAO. Sorry man, that's just baloney and you are making stuff up. I had some awesome times in WoW and so did my 200+ player guild as well. No one, and I mean no one is going to play something they truly hate for years on end just because their 'friends' did.

No. I'm saying it's a game that you played with your friends, that literally made it impossible to play with your friends unless you kept up with your friends. So, in the interest or possibility of wanting to play at some point in the future, you had to play now.

If and when playing now ceased to be fun, people kept on playing just so they could still have the option to play later.

And, like I said, the model worked. That doesn't mean the model was good for the consumer or the video gaming industry.

[ten4]

I played since day one, hell it's how I met my wife. I've had 4 different accounts, and been there for every expac released. The problem being, that each expac is almost exactly like the last. The game has not evolved all that much, it's stagnated in terms of gameplay and world. Sure they add a new race here or there, and a new area to quest in but the gameplay hasn't changed all that much and neither have the mechanics.

There is no balance, only new "of the moment" classes in PvP, with a few classes being far beyond that of others. The proof is there. 1.8 million customers lost in a month or so. That's almost $27 million a month lost in revenue. PEopel are speaking, will BLizzard listen, I doubt it.

Let's face the facts....any game is going to lose popularity over time. WoW has taken over 7 years for that to happen which is pretty good compared to most games. Let's look at Defiance where people quit within a month or two. Can you honestly compare Defiance to that?

[Conneri]

Let's face the facts....any game is going to lose popularity over time. WoW has taken over 7 years for that to happen which is pretty good compared to most games. Let's look at Defiance where people quit within a month or two. Can you honestly compare Defiance to that?

A lot of us quit WoW in the first few months too. It didn't really take off for almost a year and a half (Ahn'Qiraj and then Naxx was the big leap). So in a year from now, we could compare the two.

[Tyger]

A lot of us quit WoW in the first few months too. It didn't really take off for almost a year and a half (Ahn'Qiraj and then Naxx was the big leap). So in a year from now, we could compare the two.

XD

The best part of Democracy is that your anecdotal evidence counters his and therefore blanks the 2 from being considered. Hahah, Rock the Vote yo'.

P.S. I will still consider your anecdotes though, Conneri

[Iceberg]

Trust me... I'm one of the many if not the poster child for breaking this cardinal rule I now cling to dearly.

Everyone here more likely than not can remember a lil' phenom known as "The Matrix", yea? Remember when the Wachowski's felt like bringing the idea to the realm of MMO's? I had only been online for about 2+ yrs with my first 'self-built' rig and I somehow missed absolutley everything that was reported on the game's suck factor. I went out and got a copy and much to my dismay found out that b4 I had even popped the disc into the drive to load up, the game had been shuttered due to all of it's many, many, many issues. All because I was caught in the initial hype and still riding the wave of 'The Neo-train'.

Yes, it was straight up stupid on my part, but I only have myself to blame. I didn't rush to whatever forum was linked to that particular sh!t-bomb and rant about all my entitlements as a gamer or go on to cite the myriad of games coming soon to bury it. I sheepishly moved on with my once private debacle and took it as a learning experience not to let myself make rash decisions with my money/time. This game delivers what I figured it would. I've gotten my money's worth and I'm satisfied. Do I think the game is in trouble with how they are handling practically every decision - Yes. Is it stopping me from logging in and shooting things in the face - No.

Yea it's a rather blunt way of filing away most of what get's posted here but when you see poster after poster waste their time in a forum berating a game while shilling for another all the while expecting others to have a tissue/back pat at the ready, you tend to tune it out as junx posting. It's getting to the point where we got VG-Hipsters now:

"I used to love this game but now I hate it. Cuz' I loved it once my H8 is more established than any of you here so that makes what I got to say the absolute truth. Don't bother trying to poke holes in my Ideals with logic and reason, it just makes you look Jelly"...

Yea. Uh-huh... Maybe the quality of gaming life would rise if the quality of gamer wasn't full of ADHD driven lil' schlocks that wouldn't know a good game from the gaps in their questionable genetic coding. Think first, Act second. You may end up better off for it, and the gaming community wouldn't be the caustic cesspool of degenerative cause/effect that it's sunk to.

Did you get while Monolith still had it or after SOE took over and re-did the combat engine?

It was one of the first MMO's I had ever played, it was an Ok/Decent game, and yes it had a lot of flaws. With Defiance however, I did the same as you did with MxO. I didn't read up on it to much, saw a commercial and thought well, the show was good so the game can't be that bad.

I gave defiance a chance, its just not my cup of tea as it were.

[Arsenic_Touch]

Did someone really say that defiance looked better on a console compared to wow on the pc? haha...