Defiance is pushing GPU over 100C. Anyone NOT tech support know a hack to cool this?

[mattc]

My gaming laptop GPU (Gforce 9800m GTS) easily meets the suggested requirements for playing Defiance. Yet within seconds of starting the game the GPU temp reaches 100C / 212F.

I suspect somewhere in the preferences or game files a graphics setting is asking my GPU to deliver far too many useless FPS. Does anyone know about this?

Tech support from GMs (not devs or techs) say there's nothing to be done, no settings they can instruct me to change. In fact, at their suggestion, I got a twin fan cooling base, which made no difference.

I hope someone out there can help.

[Billy Guile]

have you dialed down the mapping in the nvidia control panel?

[Sanguinesun]

Other than lowering your settings managing ingame and the Nvidia Geforce Experience panel, your only other options are freezing out your room and keeping your fan/system dust free on the cheap side. Otherwise you can start to spend for cooling systems or better cards for the rig which may not be feasible.

[ShrykeAbysmal]

Yeah gotta say I can't imagine any reason why an adequately cooled system that was up to spec would heat up that fast or to that extreme. Defiance isn't even that demanding on resources as games go. I play Skyrim with all 4096bit textures, post processing, and close to 100 mods on max settings and with a Corsair 80i water cooling system and some case fans in a room that averages about 77F, I rarely see more than 28C at the CPU and 55C at the GPU (GTX680).

There's got to be some kind of blockage or other malfunction with the cooling unit within the machine if the room you're playing in is not blistering hot. I would check the rpm on the fan and any configuration relating to it, plus checking BIOS version to see if a flash might be in order to correct the sensors that handle the cooling. Also, I'd check to see if anything related to the venting on the case or possibly even the fans themselves are blocked. True boiling temp for water? That's real bad.

[Telemachus]

Could turn on the V-sync, may help keep the temp down.

Depending on the fps you're getting.

[ianb4all]

Majority of the times when people have come in with laptops complaining about heat issues I find the number one fault is the "way" they use the laptop- they sit on their bed and let it sit on the duvet which in turns stifles the small fans at the back or sides(the bed acts as nice insulator) therefore the laptop overheats quite quickly.

I always tell people if they insist on using their laptops on their beds- then they must get one of those dinner trays or a nice flat piece of hardboard and use that to sit it on- so it gets a nice surface to keep itself ventilated properly!
As the duvet insulates the bottom of it as well letting the entire base of the laptop overheat as well!

Majority of people came back and said it worked like a charm and their heat issues went away.

[VicousBlood]

My gaming laptop GPU (Gforce 9800m GTS) easily meets the suggested requirements for playing Defiance. Yet within seconds of starting the game the GPU temp reaches 100C / 212F...

Your temps aren't too far from what I'd expect on a laptop with that series card, for this game, albeit higher than the card's threshold of 80c. In a 70f degree room, I have a (Alienware) 460m that runs about 74c. A (lenovo) 6970m that runs in the mid 60's c.. and a (Lenovo) SLI 750m that runs about mid to high 50's c(Lenovo, previously IBM has very well engineered cooling)... Laptops have poor cooling in the first place. Even if your machine meets or exceeds requirements, on a laptop, you have to factor in: ambient room temperatures, debris in the system, objects around the laptop blocking in and out airflow, how many vents and placement of vents..it gets ridiculous. I find most cooling pads only help on a laptop if the bottom of the laptop is absolutely riddled with ventilation holes. If not, I would suggest a side cooler that clips on to your existing side vents (image below). It is much easier to pull air out than it is to push it through a laptop.

Off the back of the box:
System Requirements
The minimum system requirements for Defiance on PC are:
Operating system: Windows® XP SP2
Processor: Intel® core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz CPU or better
Memory: 2 GB System RAM
Hard drive space: 15 GB available
Video: 512MB video card (Nvidia® GeForce® 8600, ATI Radeon® HD 2900, or Intel® HD 4000 integrated graphics or better)
Sound: DirectX® 6.1 compatible sound card
DirectX®: DirectX® 9.0c
Broadband internet connection

Your 9800m GTS has about the same performance as the 8800 GS (Desktop) which is only 1 tier above the minimum requirements for Defiance. In which case I suspect your card is being pushed to it's limits.

You can also try to use Nvidia Inspector to tweak your cards rendering performance, but I cannot stress this enough if you can't understand the changes you can make, get help, do not experiment http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/..._download.html

Side cooler: It lights up blue

Yeah gotta say I can't imagine any reason why an adequately cooled system that was up to spec would heat up that fast or to that extreme...

9800m is mobile graphics, it won't have the same...anything, as a desktop.

[ShrykeAbysmal]

9800m is mobile graphics, it won't have the same...anything, as a desktop.

Yeah actually I just looked at that again and gave it some more consideration, even without bringing in all of the "extra" things you can do to cool a desktop that you can't with a laptop, laptops simply have less avenues for heat dissipation and more densely packed hardware that makes the middle sort of like the sun. Although I never did pay much attention to exactly what temperature my laptops have run at (since I've never gamed with them), they did run big time hot just with regular apps and Photoshop and blocking the vents with pants or bedspreads could wreak some real havoc.

Point to you Sir.

[VicousBlood]

...they did run big time hot just with regular apps and Photoshop and blocking the vents with pants or bedspreads could wreak some real havoc.

Point to you Sir.

+1 to you as well sir, I forgot that Nvidia Cuda and ATI Streaming handles part of the workload from the CPU now, in regular non rendering apps.

[MacDeath]

My gaming laptop GPU (Gforce 9800m GTS) easily meets the suggested requirements for playing Defiance. Yet within seconds of starting the game the GPU temp reaches 100C / 212F.

I suspect somewhere in the preferences or game files a graphics setting is asking my GPU to deliver far too many useless FPS. Does anyone know about this?

Tech support from GMs (not devs or techs) say there's nothing to be done, no settings they can instruct me to change. In fact, at their suggestion, I got a twin fan cooling base, which made no difference.

I hope someone out there can help.

Almost surely your GPU is working too hard. I've seen this issue with some games and solved it by dialing back the graphics from High to Medium. If that doesn't do it alone, set Vsynch to 60 so you're not trying to render more than 60 Frames per second.