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    Quote Originally Posted by BIEBERyoloSWAG View Post
    Once you add a whole world for you to wander and character building and other players doing the same thing you go from having MMO Elements to being an MMO. You can pee on my head and tell me its raining. Just because they said this isn't an MMO and has MMO elements doesn't mean thats true. This is an MMO. It is a bad attempt at being unique but it is one none the less. Is this game Massive? Yes but eh..thats debatable...Is this game Multiplayer? Yes. Is this game Online? Yes. This is an MMO sir. There is shooting yes but thats what makes this MMO different than another MMO.
    He said MMORPG. There is a difference. MMORPGs are not the same as MMOShooters and are not the same as an MMOMoba. All may share some common elements that make up the fabric of an MMO, but their individuality do not necessarily make for the same in each sub-genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJWyler View Post
    He said MMORPG. There is a difference. MMORPGs are not the same as MMOShooters and are not the same as an MMOMoba. All may share some common elements that make up the fabric of an MMO, but their individuality do not necessarily make for the same in each sub-genre.
    No Guy, he said Trion bills it as an MMO...here is his exact quote that i was responding to. I have highlighted in red font where it says MMO. His next sentence mentioned MMORPG but i was responding only to what Trion claims this game to be. Which my point was no they cant say it has MMO elements when its clearly a bad MMO:

    "Thank you!
    Even Trion bills it as a shooter with MMO elements."

    This is a MMO that is a shooter

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJWyler View Post
    It's funny - the game was awesome when it was new and fresh. Now that it is new and fresh it isn't so awesome - even though we have gotten some awesome (and not so awesome, but still new) content in the mean time *shakes head.*

    Anyway, on to your points:

    1. It's a Themepark. That, unfortunately is the drawback. Personally, I liked the story and it was one of the reasons I played the game and got hooked into it. It takes time to produce quality content on that front. As long as I am still having fun when I log into the game, I am willing to be patient to see the continuation of the storyline and see more main missions (that are actually missions and not cutscenes for the most part).

    2. First and second sentence is more befitting an RPG game. Wouldn't really work that well here when the main point of the game is to shoot the AI dead. However, I would like to see additional map areas opened up in future DLC that shows the actual homes and living areas of the people of Paradise. Some Urban Warfare would add a little spice to the game. As for the rest, that's pretty much what emergencies are for. I don't know about your experiences, but whenever I shoot a bad guy, the rest of his friends start shooting back at me. As for destructable environments - Auto Assault tried that. Didn't work out too well. Again, that is something more befitting a single-player game where the destruction does not affect anyone else playing the game. Also, if you look carefully, your weapon spray will leave temporary damage on some of the environment - especially noticable on nano weapons.

    3. Additional clothing choices would always be a welcome addition. However, as you probably noticed, there are limitations with the game's engine, hence all the Human survivor "clones" running about Arkfalls and Sieges. To add the level of detail that you are talking about would grind the game to a halt and either make it unplayable, or make no difference because the game would be unable to render all your "cool" stuff and thus make it pointless.

    4. Oh hell no. SWG is the poster boy on why open world player built housing should never be implemented in a game, ever. I would not be opposed to housing being added to the game, but do it Rift style - instanced and in depth.

    5. That's what the contracts are for (at least in terms of Rep). Our job in the game world is as an Arkhunter. We earn our scrip salvaging from Arkfalls, and now protecting areas from Volge Sieges. Emergencies also earn us scrip, as does the repeatable mission points found within the world. Walking around a street block at night to earn some scrip? No thanks, I would rather shoot things in the face and get paid.

    6. All game sponsored events have been promoted on the launcher and website. In fact we are now in the midst of voting for the top 5 Arkhunters to get one written into Season two of the show, which reminds me .... Ok, I'm back. All the other stuff you mention is quite doable as a player-sponsored event - and in fact many guilds hold such events in game. Perhaps you should think of joining them. Personally, I don't need a developer to "let" me do events like that. I would rather leave them in the hands of the players and let the imagination run - much funner that way. Personally, any future "official" sponsored events I would like to see would include letting players show their talents outside of the game instead of being just game time played - let's have contests for the artists and the writers in our community.

    7. Another Hell no here. Let's leave mini-pets to the RPGs, and the only companions I need in the game are the story mission characters. Their involvement in several of the missions is enough. I'm not that great at shooters, but even I have to admit that this game isn't all that challenging on that front, so the addition of a companion character is unnecessary. If you feel like you need to have someone who "has your back," well, that's why this is an MMO and we have the ability to join friends, groups, and guilds. Again, that provides for a much more dynamic and fun experience than an AI partner.
    A lot of good points. And i can unfortuantely, since im typing on a cell phone sized screen, I can only touch on the points that i recall from memory so as i do not have to keep scrolling up and down for each point. You mentioned the engines being the reason why we cant have good stuff, on the cosmetic section, DAMN YOU TRION. FIX YO ENGINES FOOs!! Even if my character looks like the crash survivor guy to everyone else thats fine by me just as long as i know i look different and unique!!
    As for the housing section. You said you dont want it. But then said you do just as long as its like Rift? I never played that game. Please explain how it works. Oh and what was SWG? Star Wars Galaxy? How did they do there housing. Please compare Rift and SWG in a short one paragraphed response with a pie chart to show similarities and differences.
    As for the dog/r2D2. YOU MUST BE MAD. I NEED A DOG.
    I dont remember any other points you mentioned but i do remember they were good points. Keep up the good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by August Barkley View Post
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    He's the newest Sisqo... Flash in the pan style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIEBERyoloSWAG View Post
    No Guy, he said Trion bills it as an MMO...here is his exact quote that i was responding to. I have highlighted in red font where it says MMO. His next sentence mentioned MMORPG but i was responding only to what Trion claims this game to be. Which my point was no they cant say it has MMO elements when its clearly a bad MMO:

    "Thank you!
    Even Trion bills it as a shooter with MMO elements."

    This is a MMO that is a shooter
    Exactly - this is an MMOShooter which is different from an MMORPG - many of the elements of which you requested are more suited. They would not necessarity befit an MMOShooter.

    Quote Originally Posted by BIEBERyoloSWAG View Post
    As for the housing section. You said you dont want it. But then said you do just as long as its like Rift? I never played that game. Please explain how it works. Oh and what was SWG? Star Wars Galaxy? How did they do there housing. Please compare Rift and SWG in a short one paragraphed response with a pie chart to show similarities and differences.
    As for the dog/r2D2. YOU MUST BE MAD. I NEED A DOG.
    I dont remember any other points you mentioned but i do remember they were good points. Keep up the good work
    In terms of housing - I said I don't want open world housing or other player building type stuff. It just ends up being a mess, nuisance and detracts more from a game than adds to it. As for the rest, it would take to long to really explain it all. SWG (Star Wars Galaxies) had open world housing and it ended up just littering the landscapes of the planets with what amounts to trash heaps in your back yard. Rift's housing is an instanced area called Dimensions (that you can invite people to visit), and has some really good building tools that puts the new SimCity game to shame (not that it would be hard to do).

    As for pets - we don't even know what animals may have survived or not. As far as we know, dogs and cats were wiped out. Again, while this might be a nice thing to have in an RPG, doesn't quite fit here, and in the end, like the customization, the engine wouldn't be able to handle it. At best, you would only have a pet in an instanced area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by August Barkley View Post
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    Consider yourself lucky, then.

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    This game is advertised as a MMOTPS.

    This is Trion's biggest lie ever.

    You are thrown into the bay area to play the role of an arkhunter, you customize its looks, you choose its origin and you play the story of said arkhunter.

    If this game was really a MMOTPS it would be more orientated to the PvP crowd, but it is clearly more orientated to the PvE crowd, just look at the features and the DLC content.

    This game is failing precisely because of this, it lacks identity. It is not a MMORPG or a MMOTPS, It's one big messy clusterfuck of randomness. Just because you're using guns instead of shields and swords (fun fact, we recently got swords) doesn't automatically make it a MMOTPS.
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