so wait, NO Arkfall or instance loot??? WTF?

[Karazykid]

Or maybe it's that loot drops in the form of keys and key codes?

I get them from pretty much every event, with major arkfalls giving me 4 or so. You spend keys on chests to get a selection of random loot, ranging from tier 1 to 4. I can get behind dropping some immediate loot on the spot for a nice reward rather than a disappointing climax, but it's not like they aren't giving you anything right now.

If the intended loot of a major arkfall is 4 keys, I'll never do them again. Why can't everyone who does X amount of damage that shows they were there at the start and actually helped (that way people can't just ride in at the last second for a free reward) get like a tier 2 lock box or something? Those things take ages and they're fairly annoying to boot. The hellbug monarchs are just really annoying to kill and completely dependent on having like 40+ guys there. If there's only 10 you'll never get it. Or I can go do a 4 player co-op mission which usually takes much less time, is more fun and I still get the same amount of keys and usually more and better loot.

[Defy]

From here:

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...360-PC-and-PS3

"Improved loot in Major Arkfalls"

[KodiakX]

Loot already drops from Minor Arkfalls depending on how well you do at each "phase" tick on the minors. So for example destroy the hell bug crystal? Well Each 20% a new wave starts and each time it can drop loot around the crystal if you do good.

They are improving Major Arkfalls with the patch going in right now:

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...360-PC-and-PS3

[Mavor]

Co-op missions and Arkfalls give keys. Keys are good. As of this upcoming patch Arkfalls will give 'improved loot'. That is also good. Co-op missions tend to drop lots of greens and blues and Im sure they can drop purple and orange. This is good as well.

This is not a game where you beat an instance and get to roll on a bunch of uber loot. It works on an entirely different system. So shake off the attachment to WOW/EQ/etc/insert-game-here and welcome to a new world =)

[ten4]

Do not bother with arkfalls, you can just go do old mission areas or those random rescue type encounters and get way more exp/loots/keys for considerably less time. Best capatalize on this now before they inevitably nerf those as well.

This is not a game where you beat an instance and get to roll on a bunch of uber loot. It works on an entirely different system. So shake off the attachment to WOW/EQ/etc/etc to have and welcome to a new world =)

No, Defiance is a grind heavy game. When I say grind, I mean kill the exact same spawns for months on end kind of grind. It is not hidden or masked in any shape or form like some of those games you listed. And like to point out that purples and oranges are not on mob loot lists far as I can tell; you will only get those from lock boxes or rare vendor sale.

Lol you have to do well on the board to get items....welcome to MMOs

Rift events does it better, they learned that having a score board giving loots based on that was fail. Evidently, none of the Defiance devs know of that game.

[Freyar]

I tend to not get much out of arkfalls, and my attempt to do a co-op map was interrupted by server troubles.

[TurkeyBurgers]

Loot already drops from Minor Arkfalls depending on how well you do at each "phase" tick on the minors. So for example destroy the hell bug crystal? Well Each 20% a new wave starts and each time it can drop loot around the crystal if you do good.

They are improving Major Arkfalls with the patch going in right now:

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...360-PC-and-PS3

That is like running an instance and only having whites greens and occasionally blues drop from the trash mobs and no epics or oranges drop from the GIGANTIC LAST BOSS at all?!?!?

Who in their right mind makes the only loot drop from the trash mobs and not from the last boss and think that is considered a good strategy to game progression?

Yall need to do some house cleaning on your think tank team bros.

Seriously.

Firings need to happen.

I do not care if the brainiac who dreamed this one up IS the CEO's nephew.

Kid needs to get his/her butt fired and kicked to the curb.

Move them to the mailroom or something.

Can't screw that one up too bad.

[MR_CHEWYNumNums]

Lol you have to do well on the board to get items....welcome to MMOs.

[Athyrio]

I bet there is a huge patch or maintenance tomorrow morning.

Wooooonk!!! Sorry, no big patch, minor minor patches, with no patch notes showing they are fixing stuff, then server crashes for hours and did you read the DAY 2 for Trion on the community? Hahahaha

[Swarm]

the beta imo had alot more features, like key fragments that they took out probably because people would complain tat its too hard to something stupid. its basically a continuation of the alpha with the addition of episode quests. kinda lame but theres hope of better sht in the future... its only been official release for like 4 days.