I feel disconnected with the in-game community.

[Taaltos]

This has been beaten to death by Alpha and Beta testers. No one has mentioned anything about it.

The VOIP is STILL auto-on when you group up. I could hear a buddy of mine coughing and sneezing, he had no clue his mic was on.

When you mute a MIC you ALSO end up muting their text chat.

There's no PTT toggle option.

Bleh.

Was hoping this would be fixed by launch.

[fsol]

Agree with th fact that on pc this needs to change.

At a arkfall some ppl drove hte cars over the skitters...sigh so i explained why not to do in chat.
No one replied or even stopped .

Back (and kk thats the past) in Tabula Rasa i had amazing conversations in the zone chat.

During invasions a lot off ppl would jsut be talking about the day/ingame funstuff/bugs/music ectect.

I also as stated in this thread feel disconnected,its mmotps not a singelplayer.

[Laughter]

This has been beaten to death by Alpha and Beta testers. No one has mentioned anything about it.

The VOIP is STILL auto-on when you group up. I could hear a buddy of mine coughing and sneezing, he had no clue his mic was on.

When you mute a MIC you ALSO end up muting their text chat.

There's no PTT toggle option.

Bleh.

Was hoping this would be fixed by launch.

I heard myself laughing through my husband's computer like a crazy person. We had to turn it off, lol.

[silvertemplar]

Well, I agree the current chat system sux but... Defiance isn't a traditional MMO (where chatting was very important). It's a run & gun shooter with minimalist MMO overlaid. for example, there IS a chat system and it CAN be used. In Alpha we all knew each other so we did chat. In Beta it was pretty much strangers so we rarely chatted.

Well to put it in perspective, Planetside 2 got the standard MMO chat system, which is far superior to Defiance's system. So the thing about "it's not a traditional MMO" does not fly. Planetside 2 is even LESS of a traditional MMO than Defiance.

The only reason the chat system is so bad is because it's a console game, period . It's not because Trion didn't know how or didn't feel it does not fit into their plans, they made Rift afterall and there's it's rock solid. It is pure and simply because you can't type on consoles (well you can, but it will not be practical and will be painful unless you bought an accessory).

DCUO, also launched EXACTLY like this. The UI was a disaster, the chat was massive fail. They eventually tweaked it to be "functional", but even today, it's terrible. The reason? The game is running on the console also.

If a game is multi platform and featuring on consoles, i can guarentee you now, forget about any fancy "drag and drop" and heavy keyboard functionality. There is a reason why heavily social games requiring keyboard input and heavy and intricate UI usage does not appear on the console very often, this is one of them.

[Jennica Fortune]

I agree, I see others and sure we can help each other, but damn if I had wanted Xbox 360 style chatting I would have bought the game on the Xbox 360. In fact, I'm staring to wish I had. Pretty damn bad when a game is available on consoles and PC and I"m wishing I'd gotten the console instead of the PC.

[Sex]

This game feels like a cheap single player..

[Jennica Fortune]

Well to put it in perspective, Planetside 2 got the standard MMO chat system, which is far superior to Defiance's system. So the thing about "it's not a traditional MMO" does not fly. Planetside 2 is even LESS of a traditional MMO than Defiance.

The only reason the chat system is so bad is because it's a console game, period . It's not because Trion didn't know how or didn't feel it does not fit into their plans, they made Rift afterall and there's it's rock solid. It is pure and simply because you can't type on consoles (well you can, but it will not be practical and will be painful unless you bought an accessory).

DCUO, also launched EXACTLY like this. The UI was a disaster, the chat was massive fail. They eventually tweaked it to be "functional", but even today, it's terrible. The reason? The game is running on the console also.... for some reason if a game is featuring on the console, this is what you end up with.

Are we playing with console players? If that was the case I could maybe see it, but even then Final Fantasy XI Online allowed PS2 and PC, then later Xbox 360 players... ALL played together on the same servers... but they did NOT have to let the PC users chat suffer. They just had lots of common words available in a database for quick chatting... but PC users or those with keyboards on the console had full chatting.

[Airwolf3169]

even with text chat. I wish the pc game had been set up like the other two platforms. with voce chat built into the game.

[Arsenic_Touch]

Can't message people on your friend's list, a mmo without whispers... holy hell.
The chat window is just absolutely atrocious, I don't understand how trion can be happy with it.
This game feels like the beta, just with the map unlocked. Arkfall loot is still turned off and it seems sledge was lying or just misinformed when he said item stats in beta do not reflect what they are in game, unless they made the ego requirement for the next damage level to be insane.

[zartanyen]

Console is the same way but more annoying to get to the chat can't keep it open it's basically worthless and lets not go into the voice chat I might as well open up skype, vent, teamspeak to talk with people so if I have to run my PC to use a chat option why did I bother getting it for my console ? point was to not have to use my PC.

I blame WOW for all this their the ones who started this hey you can solo in a MMO no need to group make friends or join a guild you can be that all by yourself loner and we will tailor the game to you, now look where we are at the just through the whole chat system into the trash can so we all can do our own thing unless you like meeting people and making friends and doing things with thoes people and talking to them and enjoying the game more because of the people around you no we don't want that just be like the friendless solo guy over their miserable as all hell.