Siege Etiquette and a Proposition for all Arkhunters Green and Veterans alike

[Jet1337]

Oh my ****ing god OP, I'm not going to read that, and decipher it. What's your point?

Sieges aren't hard and anyone with a decent SAW can get to 20k. It's actually easier to do it by yourself because the volge are easier to kill.

Also, no one will cooperate because Jet1337's law states that in every game, there is always that one person or group that ****s it all up for everyone. Solo ftw.

[marshy]

Please bear with me as I am not very good at expressing my ideas tersely.

We have all experienced this. We are exploring the Bay Area in Defiance when we see that lovely blue icon indicating a Volge siege will soon be underway. You speed on over there in your roller and, being a veteran (or nearly so), you are wise enough to realize that there aren't enough arkhunters there to start it yet, so you hang back and wait for more to arrive. A few seconds later you notice the point is starting to be captured and think "No you **************** there aren't enough people yet!" So the siege begins with a force of arkhunters that can rival the bravery of the Defiant Few, yet they are just that, few, and are lucky to get to stage 8, leading to a very disappointing siege.

This is a very frustrating experience which can then lead to some...uhhh un nice things being said.
A couple of times when this has happened I have inspected the player/s who started it and sometimes they have rather low ego, not very good gear, and are possibly new to the game. So everyone cool off and just tell them that it is better to wait for more people, and tell them nicely, no need for hate among arkhunters

Now that that business is out of the way I can get to the proposition.

Imagine this: All sieges get to the epic stages of 11, 12, and 13 maybe further with time to spare. What a glorious world, yes? Impossible you say? Of course it's possible!

If you haven't realized it by now or are new to the game, these major events are largely about cooperation. For those out there who think you are or will be good enough to take on anything... starting a siege early and hoping to get anywhere with it is kind of like seeing a major ark fall and thinking "Man I wish all these people would just go and let me solo this thing!" Get real or go back to your COD or whatever made you think such a thing!

Now the real proposal! (Finally!)

It all relies on people wanting to cooperate in order to get to the epic levels of the sieges
If everyone develops an *understanding* of which siege to go to when they appear it is possible for dang near everyone in game to be at a single siege ripping the Volge a new one! If they even had one to begin with I don't know I am not educated in Volge anatomy!

*For guys out there kind of like the unspoken rules of the public restroom.
*For girls.. well I'm sorry ladies I can't think of anything for you but hey you're smarter than we men so you don't need an explanation right?

If sieges don't start unless people start them (Please correct me if I am wrong on this) it is better for everyone to do this. The understanding could be to work from top to bottom starting with Kinship working down on the map.

If they do start or disappear after a certain amount of time we should still organize to get as many people at a single siege as we can. (I have heard that some of the bigger clans do and it turns out well so let's make it everyone and make it epic) It will then be possible, no, easy to have the most fun possible at sieges. Tearing Volge down as quickly as they come, not losing even a single capture point, reaching stages never before seen by human or votan, not a single score under 15000! Okay maybe I am exaggerating a bit but still this would be very awesome and would ensure that sieges are always exhilarating.

This is my first post starting a new thread so please be kind!

I realize I rambled at times but if you got this far thank you for your time and for your attention. If you post thank you for your thoughts.

Please give your opinions and thoughts on my idea and, if you all out there like this idea, ideas on how to organize such an amazing volge massacring force of Arkhunters. As well as a way to ensure everyone knows about this. I am on PC NA and won't turn down a friend request(How else am I gonna get those pursuits?)

Defiance!
-Ozo

All I read is whhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaa whhhhhhhaaaaaaa maybe you need a whhhhhhhhhaaaaambulance

[TigrisMorte]

I can start it and solo a bunch of waves myself, getting lots of points and far more than 20k by the time others show up. What is in it for me by waiting, aside from stolen kills.

getting to higher levels. see, your 20K is pointless if you got it on 8 waves. Oh, wait, sorry you already explained you didn't care or understand and only wanted the single pointless metric. Never mind. Carry on.

[TigrisMorte]

yeah but getting to 20K in a siege that only makes it to wave 8 is a waste of time, so... ye gods I wish folks could L2P. OP, I feel your pain.

[Vox Animus]

And screw those guys that play at night, right?

I usually wait for others to arrive. However, I also often play at night, and a lot of times we are no more than 4 or 5 at the end. So, no. I think such contrivances are a bad idea.

If you want to reach those "epic" stages, then organize and be ready to deploy at a moment's notice. Don't bar me from content just because I play when there are only a handful of people around.

Perhaps first half of the day, it could require 5 players to start it up, and then the second half up to through night time, it could require 1-2 players to start it up.

[Arsenic_Touch]

Just so you know, you don't need 20k to get a volge battle rifle. So there's no excuse for people jumping the gun. It's simply selfish, nothing more.

[Mudturtle Jones]

It seems to me a solution would be for your EGO to announce that it had detected Volge troops massing near the siege area and give everyone a few minutes to get there before the siege could be started. That way if there was only a single person it could still start.

[Valdrane78]

It seems to me a solution would be for your EGO to announce that it had detected Volge troops massing near the siege area and give everyone a few minutes to get there before the siege could be started. That way if there was only a single person it could still start.

And this...is the best possible solution. Your EGO should be calling out incoming sieges and major arkfalls. I am not sure why Trion did not implement this in the beginning.

[Saluki]

yeah but getting to 20K in a siege that only makes it to wave 8 is a waste of time, so... ye gods I wish folks could L2P. OP, I feel your pain.

OK in all seriousness, maybe I am missing something. If you get 20,000 points at a siege but you only get to wave 8, why was it a waste of time?

I am under the assumption that the only "reward" for getting to wave 10 (or I guess technically, making it through wave 10 successfully) was for a pursuit. Is there some other aspect to wave 10 that I am missing?

[CRIXDA]

Making another forum member out to be some sort of crybaby is kind of "bad form" around here.
Seriously unnecessary. Maybe others don't agree with You, but that doesn't make them a whiner or a baby.
I have read more than a few posted opinions that I absolutley disagreed with and expressed my disapproval, but not quite like that: "waaaaa waaaa" stuff.
It is just not good.