with FF14 and GTA Online now out

[Rumeyes]

Did Microsoft shut down when Apple went big?

No, they showed that their computers were for businesses while Apple stuff is toys.

Even when Microsoft was big and Apple was little, they produced good quality design PC's with an OS that was comparable in a niche, where Defiance is not one of the big boys nor producing anything innovative. Nobody looked very suprised when Apple scored big with the Iphone.

So I dont know, Lenovo has a good market in the business segment, Dell/Alienware id say is too big as well, hm, maybe Defiance is somewhat comparable with Compaq Computer Corporation?

Although they got eaten by HP, so that would make them too big as well. Any suggestions?
I think your whole idea (again) just doesnt make sense, tbh. Sorry bout that.

[TigrisMorte]

Howdy, troll. Thanks for your promotion of games not even remotely in the same genre. You should add that there is a spreadsheet available with the latest subscription for MS office because it is as relevant to Defiance as GTA5 or FFwhogivesaratsasswhatversionreboot.

[Rumeyes]

I think it's unfair to compare Defiance with the big boys anyway. Defiance is like a snack, shouldnt class it in the same ballpark as the heavyweights.. Aion might, Defiance, no.

[hey u]

Not sure how it is on 360 and PC but PS3 has been slowly dying I say. Unless I in luck and my friends/people I know are on drops have been dead. San Fran area is dead as well. I would say in past week I have done about 11 crystal drops solo and I must say it was fun as hell the first few times soloing a drop but now are not fun. They are ever so simple and I would like the social aspect to it as well.

[N3gativeCr33p]

I've had GTAV on the slow burn since it launched. Turns out my gut was right knowing the online launch would be a mess once October 1st rolled around. I just have more patience than others... this ain't my first time at the gaming rodeo.

[Frozen]

Wait until the holidays and next gen launches. FF14 for the fantasy guys, Destiny for the FPSers, hell even The Division looks like it pulls off everything Defiance is trying to accomplish. A lot of console players are playing Defiance simply because it's the only taste of a flavor they like out right now.

[TAG]

1.) Most of the original Defiance players are gone.
2.) They dropped the price to $20 to encourage new players because of the drop off of players.
3.) The DLC just made it easy for players to quit.
4.) Shadow war doesn't even fill up anymore, 12vs 12 usually (remember 48 vs 48).
5.) Trion is a company that doesn't care about its current consumers only the new ones that will buy their cosmetics.
6.) Defiance came out as a lemon.
7.) The games abilities are boring and lame, (gear is only for cosmetics).
8.) This game is free to play and losing popularity fast,(imagine if they had a fee).
9.) Microsoft doesn't even advertise this product and have cut ties.

[Chump Norris]

So we are allowed to talk about superior games on these forums now?

[J_matt]

U cant compare defiance to gtao online nor ff online... Gta online is broken far worse than defiance that people are screaling for tuere money back and ff online is a subscribing based mmo were u have to pay $15 a month just to play it and thats not including the micro transactions...

[hardy83]

Yeah. Don't know why you're comparing this game to a game that's not really an MMO and a tradition MMORPG with a monthly sub.

Kind of apples and oranges.

If you compare them to say Titanfall or Destiny then that's makes more sense, as they are more direct competitors, though I don't think Titanfall and Destiny are MMO at all from what I've seen.
I've only seen instanced play. I haven't really seen an "overworld". Destiny is close, but it looks more akin to Guild Wars 1 in how it works than an MMO with an open overworld like Defiance.