Existing weapons need to change too!!!!!!!!

[Holy Bahamut3]

Ok, my 2 cents again.

We want the bonus "Purple" rolls changed for every weapon that has a Self Revive roll.
= Proven possible by the changing of "15% Grenade refresh on kill"

We also want other useless rolls, such as ammo on self revive, changed.
= Proven to risky/difficult to the player database.

At a minimum, these Purple rolls can be changed the same as the grenade refresh. That alone would quell much of the discord of the veteran players. Many weapons will still have some less than useful rolls, but a good purple roll replacement can help those weapons retain some use.

I sincerely hope this is implemented for us!

Now that makes sense. ^

[Trixy]

Very good point, Crasher. In fact, I've decided not to get myself all worked up over the game itself which Trion has already made their mind up about - for whatever reasons considering our outcries.

However, I have given SERIOUS thought this weekend as to the business dynamics of SyFy & Trion's venture with Defiance. This, will most definitely be a future, winded post of mine as not to hi-jack this one.

[GeneCo]

Very good point, Crasher. In fact, I've decided not to get myself all worked up over the game itself which Trion has already made their mind up about - for whatever reasons considering our outcries.

However, I have given SERIOUS thought this weekend as to the business dynamics of SyFy & Trion's venture with Defiance. This, will most definitely be a future, winded post of mine as not to hi-jack this one.

I look forward to reading it

[ironcladtrash]

Also because of this I am now afraid to level any halfway decent weapon since they refuse to fix broken stats.

[Zugo]

I have these exact stats on my OJ Mass Cannon.

+fire rate x 2 on a weapon with a mag size of 1. It's enough to make you cry.

[Mooglestime]

Some of the folks on this thread have gotten a lot of the pertinent issues correct. One thing that is, perhaps, illustrative to clarify is the difference between removing Rate of Fire benefits on single shot weapons and replacing the grenade recharge benefits.

Replacing the grenade recharge benefits will be global and will affect every weapon in the future and past. We will change that effect itself, and that change will affect everything.

Conversely, we will not be treating Rate of Fire the same way. We certainly do not want to globally replace any and all rate of fire increases. We've created a new set of rarity rolls, in the case of single shot weapons, and that distinction did not exist before. If we replace the rate of fire bonuses on old weapons, this will affect MANY weapons which actually benefit from the bonus. (No single-shot vs multi-shot distinction existed before.)

While, yes, we have a full database with all the players and their inventories in existence, any mass change we make to actually go in an replace old weapons with updated ones will result in many false-positives. Manipulating the database which stores all the player characters is incredibly risky, and we don't want to subject anyone to the misfortune which can result from that.

Garbage weapons are easy to get rid of: we have vendors and scrap for that reason. In the future, garbage weapons are going to drop with far less frequency. (If we've caught all the issues, they will drop with infinitely less frequency.)

For TL;DR. We're fixing poor loot drops, we are not risking destroying existing weapons.

Entirely agree - it's a cost/benefit analysis (not just against raw cost or manpower, but also against everything else in the world we could do.) Something being difficult won't block a good idea if it's worth it.

IMO, Trion is no better then crooks and thieves now, and the company disgusts me.

We vets spent MONTHS of time, money and support, and THIS is how you treat us? like some ****ing number? I GAVE YOU MY MONEY, ON BITS, FOR LOCKBOXES, AND MY **** IS NOW RENDERD USELESS???

Cant wait for your ****ing joke of a company to die off, I have never seen anything handled more poorly.

The lies, the broken servers for so long, the 500k for free for "some" people after your **** up, the piece of **** DLC, that reminds me of a **** I took when I was sick, and it came out green and had bubbles in it.


IMO, Your a pathetic company, and if it reflects even slightly how you are in life m(not saying it does, but IF it is....), then God help you.

[crasher]

IMO, Trion is no better then crooks and thieves now, and the company disgusts me.

We vets spent MONTHS of time, money and support, and THIS is how you treat us? like some ****ing number? I GAVE YOU MY MONEY, ON BITS, FOR LOCKBOXES, AND MY **** IS NOW RENDERD USELESS???

Cant wait for your ****ing joke of a company to die off, I have never seen anything handled more poorly.

The lies, the broken servers for so long, the 500k for free for "some" people after your **** up, the piece of **** DLC, that reminds me of a **** I took when I was sick, and it came out green and had bubbles in it.


IMO, Your a pathetic company, and if it reflects even slightly how you are in life m(not saying it does, but IF it is....), then God help you.

[/Yoda-mode] Strong The Disappointment is, in this one... [/Yoda-mode]

[Mooglestime]

[/Yoda-mode] Strong The Disappointment is, in this one... [/Yoda-mode]

lol, yoda voice settled me down and made me laugh.

My apologies if I sounded harsh.....just sucks to spend so much time/effort and resources on something, only for this to happen, when I have supported them financially and verbally since release....

[rebtattoo]

lol, yoda voice settled me down and made me laugh.

My apologies if I sounded harsh.....just sucks to spend so much time/effort and resources on something, only for this to happen, when I have supported them financially and verbally since release....

This response is in no way an effort to disclaim yours, as I have supported the vets entirely.

However, I must have had the internet and game gods on my shoulder last night. I'll explain;

After keeping up with the forum while at work yesterday, I dreaded getting home to endure the 2 1/2+ patch that many on PS3 were complaining about. Lo and behold, the patch only took me just over 30 minutes at 10:45pm EST! I double checked the threads on forum, and wondered why so many other ppl were having it take so long.

I proceeded to meet up with clan members and we began our gaming night. We tagged up a major, and decided to farm. After our farm was sabotaged by a noob, we hit up a siege at mutant district. Went back to farming, and rotated out to tag another major. I finished up farming around 4am.

Went up to Coit. Purchased 5 jackpot boxes. Netted 4 OJ's and 6 epics! Lauded my good fortune with clan mates and signed off for the night. Only then did I realize that I had not been "discoed"[love this term Crasher!] once through the course of the 4 1/2 hour play session! I do have to be honest though, the last major I tagged, I was dealing with some very severe lag, but it caught up after a few moments.

Was this a farce, Most assuredly. But, I felt I needed to add a feint silver lining. I wish every session was as smooth as this one. I also wish they would fix the old weapons and leave grenades alone!

My 2 cents

[crasher]

lol, yoda voice settled me down and made me laugh.

My apologies if I sounded harsh.....just sucks to spend so much time/effort and resources on something, only for this to happen, when I have supported them financially and verbally since release....

Many of us who are left are in your corner.
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