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    Quote Originally Posted by yue View Post
    I love when ppl make topics about something good in the game and it gets patched so seriously do not talk about stuff like this on a public forum . Example mine 99 . Enough said
    I'm quite certain I have no idea what you are babbling about. Are you saying that Trion will somehow 'nerf' Sutro Tower grinding? Because there's nothing to nerf. Are you thread-jacking for some side-ways topic unrelated to what we're talking about?

    At any rate, I regret to inform you that we'll talk about whatever we please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillith Valerian View Post
    I'm quite certain I have no idea what you are babbling about. Are you saying that Trion will somehow 'nerf' Sutro Tower grinding? Because there's nothing to nerf. Are you thread-jacking for some side-ways topic unrelated to what we're talking about?

    At any rate, I regret to inform you that we'll talk about whatever we please.
    Exactly. Sutro tower isn't a glitch or anything. Trion is perfectly aware of it and how it functions.
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    He's just afraid that Trion will think "The loot here is too good. Let's nerf it." It's understandable because games sometimes nerf things that don't need nerfing and are constantly "rebalancing." Basically, he thinks the tower is this "Secret" many players don't know about and if word gets out, it'll at least get flooded.

    I didn't know about it. Well I knew, but didn't know its loot potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevota View Post
    its over 100k Salvage an hour, much faster then grinding keys. + with new boxes today, people have full keys in anticipation and arent going to spend them until after the patch.

    So Sutro is the next best thing to do.

    ...Chances are malcolm isnt doing it for any good reason. But instead to mess people up who are doing it.
    True, salvage does give more keycodes then arkfalling and I respect that. I only make 55 keycodes an hour doing arkfalls.

    HOWEVER, the amount of scrip you have to waste to get a lockbox with salvage makes up for it. I rather not spend 3k scrip for a t3 box or 7k scrip for a t4 box. That's like wasting scrip that you could've used to buy 10+ oranges every 2 days or so. PLUS, doing arkfalls can give you a chance to get a orange or even a orange arkshield which you can sell for millions of scrip not to mention that you can gain tons of weapon xp and ego xp from doing arkfalls more than sutro tower.

    Also, put into consideration that you may have terrible luck and just waste all your scrip/salvage without getting so much as 1 orange from a lockbox every 10+boxes. Meaning that you would have to go back and forth wasting more time going to a vendor and selling your gear or even having to spend real money to buy more inv. slots to make the cycle faster. Your basically risking a lot if your doing sutro tower when you can do arkfalls and spend less to acquire your lockboxes so that you don't run out of scrip/salvage, getting tons of xp depending on which arkfall you go to, and chance to get a orange arkshield.

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    Im not worried about Scrip, but yes, it all factors into the decision 1 makes... I was stating the benefits of using Sutro...

    That said, you NEED to have scrip to do this... my 695 or w/e is suffering this from lack-of-scrip, i had to transfer scrip because 1 Jackpot Lockbox costs 10,750 Scrip EACH if you go strictly through Salvage. Mod Hoards are even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkandcookies View Post
    True, salvage does give more keycodes then arkfalling and I respect that. I only make 55 keycodes an hour doing arkfalls.

    HOWEVER, the amount of scrip you have to waste to get a lockbox with salvage makes up for it. I rather not spend 3k scrip for a t3 box or 7k scrip for a t4 box. That's like wasting scrip that you could've used to buy 10+ oranges every 2 days or so. PLUS, doing arkfalls can give you a chance to get a orange or even a orange arkshield which you can sell for millions of scrip not to mention that you can gain tons of weapon xp and ego xp from doing arkfalls more than sutro tower.

    Also, put into consideration that you may have terrible luck and just waste all your scrip/salvage without getting so much as 1 orange from a lockbox every 10+boxes. Meaning that you would have to go back and forth wasting more time going to a vendor and selling your gear or even having to spend real money to buy more inv. slots to make the cycle faster. Your basically risking a lot if your doing sutro tower when you can do arkfalls and spend less to acquire your lockboxes so that you don't run out of scrip/salvage, getting tons of xp depending on which arkfall you go to, and chance to get a orange arkshield.
    All that may be true, but I would rather farm Sutro then have a headache doing ark falls all day. I am getting of the disconnects they cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevota View Post
    Im not worried about Scrip, but yes, it all factors into the decision 1 makes... I was stating the benefits of using Sutro...

    That said, you NEED to have scrip to do this... my 695 or w/e is suffering this from lack-of-scrip, i had to transfer scrip because 1 Jackpot Lockbox costs 10,750 Scrip EACH if you go strictly through Salvage. Mod Hoards are even more.
    Dam, I really missed out on jackpot lockboxes then. I could've bought over 200 jackpot boxes if I was online today with all the salvage/scrip I have obtained of well....Why did I bring this up? The fact that someone said that jackpot boxes will only be out for this day and will give a crap ton of good loot, but I didn't have time to look at it or know the price of it till now. Did you get anything good from the jackpot box yet?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dandrielas View Post
    All that may be true, but I would rather farm Sutro then have a headache doing ark falls all day. I getting of the disconnects they cause.
    Very true, every time I log in to Defiance I pray to Trion, the Defiance god, to not lag me out during a major arkfall and also hope that if I DO lag out of the major arkfall, I hope that the major arkfall I lagged out from didn't contain an orange and especially not an orange arkshield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkandcookies View Post
    Dam, I really missed out on jackpot lockboxes then. I could've bought over 200 jackpot boxes if I was online today with all the salvage/scrip I have obtained of well....Why did I bring this up? The fact that someone said that jackpot boxes will only be out for this day and will give a crap ton of good loot, but I didn't have time to look at it or know the price of it till now. Did you get anything good from the jackpot box yet?
    Fear not old friend... Its my understanding Epic Mod Hoards, and Jackpot Lockboxes are all week, as are the triple 25% boosts. I have popped... idk, maybe 8-9 Jackpot LB's... they say its 50% chance to get a double T4 box, I think its more like 75% tbh...

    And yeah, got 1 Orange, a Syphon Scattergun with double dmg roll + a mag roll. Ego 5K. Im running a 5K shop pretty soon lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillith Valerian View Post
    I love how when people try to offer advice with another player who might not be aware of something, someone instantly gets self-righteous and looks for needless conflict.
    Not sure who was being self righteous, only mentioning the fact that none of the replies to this thread actually help the original topic (mine included especially) and that they basically inferred he was wasting his time. Also, unfortunately I wasn't referring to your post, although some might say self importance would lead people to believe so (not me, naturally). As for looking for conflict, half the reason I rarely post on this forum is due to the childlike arguments that unfold in most threads. This is pretty much indicative of most gaming forums I know, but I can dream. I won't reply any further on this thread as I have nothing to offer on the subject, and don't wish to be accused of looking for conflict.
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    El Horse... What i THINK Lillith is referring to is the fact that "malcolm" is probably the second shadiest person on the forums. He is often implicated in scamming conflicts, or often on the side of the scammers when a Name-and-shame happens... You may or may not realize that.

    Hence my post up there commenting that its probably not of any benefit to anyone else to have "malcolm" involved with them. As its something more likely shady then beneficial, as in he is probably working an angle.

    My original statement may have been a bit harsh, but i think now, and my guess is probably him trying to get a Group boost with his farming. Which, is fine and all but, why not just ask if someone with Group Boost will let him leech? Its what i think any decent person would do, have your intentions up front. "No i dont have group loot boost on, can anyone let me hook up with them and enjoy theirs?"... Sounds MUCH better then "Lets go group".
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