Safe place to store item? (Bank/Stash)

[EvilParfait]

I've logged into a few friend's accounts

Never do this. It's against almost every online game's TOS. You can very likely get your friend banned, since game companies keep track of the IPs of the person logging in.

Could have been complications designing it for Xbox, PC and PS3 all to get it to work nicely in the time frame they wanted.

I would honestly believe this, except that if one thing can be coded and run on one thing it can be done on another. The entire game is one big console port for the PC (Ugghhhh...) so having a stash would have been, I imagine, one of the SMALLER hurdles.

Or you can don the tinfoil hat and say it's to push buying inventory slots onto customers.

In this era of gaming if you don't outright assume the game company will try and get as much money from you as possible you are, dare I say it, a bit naive.

And just to give you an example of this let's think about the game's creation. We know they are allied with the Syfy channel, and they gain revenue and interest based on the show.

Think about the Ark Code system, how they peppered other WEBSITES and PRODUCTS with the codes. Why? To encourage people to both visit sites and those visiting the sites to come check out defiance. Why would they do that? Once again, it's revenue based (ads for the sites gain the website money and Defiance gains nearly free advertising).

Product placement, the "RED HOT DODGE CHALLENGER" gives Dodge a good way to advertise to a new customer base of young to middle aged males (you know, the people most likely to buy a manly car?) and Defiance gets more money.

Now, before you retaliate just keep in mind I don't think it's criminal for them to make money. In fact, I applaud them for it. Many people demonize it, but as a moderately wealthy person (if we are being brutally honest) I think it's rather interesting.

Plus people have been doing this sort of thing for years, and people have wildly different opinions on how "harmful" it is.

[Malevion]

Never do this. It's against almost every online game's TOS. You can very likely get your friend banned, since game companies keep track of the IPs of the person logging in.

So what happens when you log in to YOUR account at your friend's house? FYI its a different IP...argument, invalid.

I would honestly believe this, except that if one thing can be coded and run on one thing it can be done on another. The entire game is one big console port for the PC (Ugghhhh...) so having a stash would have been, I imagine, one of the SMALLER hurdles.

True, there is no reason they cant design a bank for each system, that point is negligible.

In this era of gaming if you don't outright assume the game company will try and get as much money from you as possible you are, dare I say it, a bit naive.

100% agree

[EvilParfait]

So what happens when you log in to YOUR account at your friend's house? FYI its a different IP...argument, invalid.

It depends on how far away your friend is, honestly. I just know that it's against the rules to account share in most online games and if they notice your account is being accessed from different locations they sometimes ban them.

Though such bans can usually be fought with phrases like, "I was on vacation." or "I moved." or "I had an accident with a inter-pan-galactic alien and he logged into my account to delete all my items as revenge but luckily I managed to wrest control at the last moment with the help of my headcrab Bobamelius."

[Celke]

For the past 4 years, maybe more friends and I did some weekend game party's when we also played mmo and I played a lot of diffrent mmo's over friends and my own home, ip always changing ... and no problem ever at all.

[EvilParfait]

For the past 4 years, maybe more friends and I did some weekend game party's when we also played mmo and I played a lot of diffrent mmo's over friends and my own home, ip always changing ... and no problem ever at all.

What do you want me to say? That I'm wrong? That you are exceptionally lucky to not have been banned?

In the past three years account stealing has become much more prevelant and companies have been taking measures to prevent account theft. Authenticators (Trion, Blizzard and Square Enix all have them (off the top of my head)), pins (a LOT of Asian F2Ps have pincodes you enter with your mouse so they can't be keylogged (Vindictus and Atlantica both have them (again, off the top fo my head)).
To combat this issue they have become more aware that of login IPs. They don't usually freak out and mash the banhammer button if they see that the IPs are all in the same localized region. (Like, all within the same state)

Does that mean it's safe? No. Does that mean you should react indignantly when people say, "You know, I'm just looking out for your best interests here and say account sharing is a bad idea. You don't want all your hard work to go down the drain, do you?"

No.

[KodiakX]

Never do this. It's against almost every online game's TOS. You can very likely get your friend banned, since game companies keep track of the IPs of the person logging in.

Thanks for your concern but I'm just fine. I've done it for years and we've never once got banned or had any issues even after they started instituting protections like verifying that an IP address is okay to be logged into. The logging and tracking of IPs are mostly for accusations of stealing, hacking, etc.

I would honestly believe this, except that if one thing can be coded and run on one thing it can be done on another. The entire game is one big console port for the PC (Ugghhhh...) so having a stash would have been, I imagine, one of the SMALLER hurdles.

I never implied it couldn't be done, only that we don't know the technical hurdles they have to accomplish to do the same thing for another system. They likely won't release features that can't be done on all 3 systems because this is one big console port.

In this era of gaming if you don't outright assume the game company will try and get as much money from you as possible you are, dare I say it, a bit naive.

There's a difference between being money savvy and being paranoid. Quite frankly I find many PC gamers over the last few years to be falling deeper and deeper into the later category.

[Yonan]

The only think you've said that's accurate is that it's against the ToS. I've shared accounts with friends around the world in multiple MMOs and not a single enquiry was raised by the GMs, let alone suspensions or bans. If you're silly enough to say in game that you do it sure, they can use that to nail you. Logging in from different machines and IPs, even different countries is not a problem. Some might have an automated system to confirm its you if you log in from a different machine/IP, that's about it.

On topic, I find the lack of (shared esepcially) bank space disturbing.

[Octaval Acorn]

It depends on how far away your friend is, honestly. I just know that it's against the rules to account share in most online games and if they notice your account is being accessed from different locations they sometimes ban them.

Though such bans can usually be fought with phrases like, "I was on vacation." or "I moved." or "I had an accident with a inter-pan-galactic alien and he logged into my account to delete all my items as revenge but luckily I managed to wrest control at the last moment with the help of my headcrab Bobamelius."

Not really. In all my gaming years, I have never had a problem with this. If anything, they flag IPs that are known offenders and lock your account. Learn your friends before assume how it goes.

[EvilParfait]

*Shrugs* People seem to assume that I actually care, but I like the old phrase, "You can lead a horse to water..."

They are your accounts people, risk them as you please. It doesn't really bother me if you do or do not get banned, since it doesn't affect me either way.

Though I'm shocked that so many people are rushing to tell me I'm wrong when all I offered was a word of warning from long experience.

[Yonan]

We're just correcting misinformation. You offered more than warnings when you said "You can very likely get your friend banned, since game companies keep track of the IPs of the person logging in." That was blatantly false. It is not "very likely", and keeping track of IPs is largely irrelevant since they change for many reasons. They are at best supporting evidence.