This needs to be addressed since pms aren't being acknowledged.

[DIS]

To translate, what she means is "Shut up and deal with it. We're not changing/fixing it."

[Nilxain]

To translate, what she means is "Shut up and deal with it. We're not changing/fixing it."

Maybe this isn't my place, but that's uncalled for IMO. If you don't like it, give reasons, and keep the conversation going.

I for one can understand their resistance to change it back. I personally think they should do some re balancing to make it so drops work as an incentive in this game - where (atm) they are mostly just scrip/salvage in raw form. For that reason I would like them to bring the drops back, but maybe Arkbreaks will fill that void - and other things in time. The question is, will it be soon enough... ?

[Nefarious]

To translate, what she means is "Shut up and deal with it. We're not changing/fixing it."

Even when questions are answered they are always added with a negative response.

[crasher]

I'm sensing a notice or two, followed by a T-Rex slamming the thread soon.

[Worldviewsinc]

It is very sad to see....

Its painfully obvious NO ONE, at Trion, plays this game...(I don't say this with contempt, just sadness) so many of these issues would be seen within a week if they played.....instead of countless threads (yes, its been countless threads now...)

I agree wholeheartedly with this post. In fact I've been hammering this nail for the past two weeks, hence my post early on in this very thread regarding 'Rift'.

It's clearly obvious, from watching how the team plays the game and talks about 'Defiance' on the livestreams that they do not have the same level of knowledge, regarding 'Defiance' as anyone who plays regularly. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that anyone who has played the game for more than a week appears to have a better understanding of the 'ins and outs' of how the game plays than any of the team does.

I really do feel that this is due to the fact that none of the team plays 'Defiance' anymore than they have to...

Watch the difference on the livestreams in the way they talk about and play 'Rift' compared to how they talk about and play 'Defiance'. It's clear to see. With 'Rift' they're animated in their discussions, they know the gameplay inside out, understand the lore and know just where to go and what to do. It's obvious that they like and are 'into' the game...

Not so much with 'Defiance'. They're unsure where the best vendors are, they don't even know the best weapon loadouts half of the time or don't seem to grasp what's even going on sometimes...

And yeah, I too am not making these comments out of contempt, but it makes me sad that the people who want us to keep supporting the game and investing money into it just don't appear to believe in the game anymore, or even like it....

And with all due respect to SammyGurl, when this fact is so very obvious to someone who has only just joined the forums, then yeah, I think there is a big problem...And maybe the reason why things ain't getting fixed!!!

[Nefarious]

lol, wow great comeback!

I need to go cry now!!!

truth sting a little? lol

We are in contact with 3 devs? Dahanese, Overload, and Trick. You expect 3 ppl to know ever little minuscule thing about the game like Volge drop rates and white bungee cords? They are more busy with bringing new features or balancing/fixing existing ones.

Nothing stings. I just have enough common sense to know that ppl are imperfect and don't freak out about it when they don't know stuff. Especially common sense stuff we the players can piece together or already know the answers to.

[Worldviewsinc]

Hey guys -

Following up on the Volge info, I think we have figured out what happened that is causing the confusion and consternation. Troopers specifically are the crux of this issue. Back when they first showed up and were a rare occurrence they had a buffed drop rate but this changed when the full invasions started (which is how things are today). And I know that someone recommended we buff those back up but I did talk to the devs and that's not something they are planning on doing - so hopefully we can knock both those questions out now.

You know what...People have been firing this question for weeks and weeks now with no reasonable/honest response.

But now it's come up here, in this thread and people won't let it drop, we have an answer in less than 24 hours!!!

Oh, yeah, and basically we're told 'that's the end of it'-------Yeahhh, good job there!!!

[Nilxain]

I just have enough common sense to know that ppl are imperfect and don't freak out about it when they don't know stuff. Especially common sense stuff we the players can piece together or already know the answers to.

While I think the majority of us had our suspicions as to how, and even why, it might have happened; it's still important to ask the question sometimes. And, when the answer to the question is, "we didn't know that they had been nerfed" (Live stream - Trick), followed by, "they weren't nerfed" (this thread), then it leads people to think that it may have been unintentional and they might come back - if the Devs are made aware. Stack that on top of many peoples very legitimate concerns about how loot functions in this game, and now you have a subject that is worth pursuing until the end.

The problem was the Devs did not listen to us over literally months of telling them it had been nerfed, so the conversation could not progress. Now that what the devs are saying is inline with what players are seeing, people who want to pursue the change can do so - starting with the acknowledgement that they were nerfed and they have no plans to change it.

Personally I am going to wait 'til Arkbreak before I look at the problems with loot incentives again. I consider the matter closed for now, but will still participate in any constructive conversation on the subject.

*This response in not meant to, in any way, condone The Juice's posts.

[crasher]

While I think the majority of us had our suspicions as to how, and even why, it might have happened; it's still important to ask the question sometimes. And, when the answer to the question is, "we didn't know that they had been nerfed" (Live stream - Trick), followed by, "they weren't nerfed" (this thread), then it leads people to think that it may have been unintentional and they might come back - if the Devs are made aware. Stack that on top of many peoples very legitimate concerns about how loot functions in this game, and now you have a subject that is worth pursuing until the end.

The problem was the Devs did not listen to us over literally months of telling them it had been nerfed, so the conversation could not progress. Now that what the devs are saying is inline with what players are seeing, people who want to pursue the change can do so - starting with the acknowledgement that they were nerfed and they have no plans to change it.

Personally I am going to wait 'til Arkbreak before I look at the problems with loot incentives again. I consider the matter closed for now, but will still participate in any constructive conversation on the subject.

Problem is that it's things like this add up to people getting fed up and leaving, while almost never being the reason for new people to come to the game.

As you start dipping *down* into the game's 'critical mass of active players' it's no longer a game to consider for the new people doing the new purchase considering.

There are always professional whiners, sure.

Some of us do the b!tching because we like the game and don't want to see it sidelined as an 'almost but not quite worth the money' purchase as a game.
I'd rather the game was successful, and continued as a going concern.
Many of the people pointing out the issues are doing it so the issues'll be fixed.
I'm not telling you anything, Nilx. You're one of the guys who clearly gets it.

I'm typing this wall of text for the people who aren't quite in the same loop, so they don't miss anything subtle or because they didn't live thru the process.

[Bonehead]

"Volge emergencies drops were not nerfed. I know we've answered this before in the past but we really, really didn't nerf 'em. "

That is just sad.
Troopers never dropped anything good.
Befor sieges the volge emer.....

You know what?
**** it