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    I think several legendary bonuses have been marked as epic by mistake. Display Epic bonuses for All weapons, and you should be able to spot them pretty easily (they're the flat bonus ones; epic bonuses always grant their buff after a specific trigger).

    Also, I've never seen *0.70 reload on a pump shotgun. I thought you could only get that on sawed-offs.

    Also also, a suggestion: when displaying several tiers of bonuses, sort them by tier by default. I'm pretty sure it would make the lists easier to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekrunner View Post
    also, a suggestion: when displaying several tiers of bonuses, sort them by tier by default. I'm pretty sure it would make the lists easier to read.
    Isnt this what i said earlier? He mentioned you can just hit the rarity button to display it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekrunner View Post

    Also, I've never seen *0.70 reload on a pump shotgun. I thought you could only get that on sawed-offs.
    The Scatterguns are a base of .7 reload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekrunner View Post
    I think several legendary bonuses have been marked as epic by mistake. Display Epic bonuses for All weapons, and you should be able to spot them pretty easily (they're the flat bonus ones; epic bonuses always grant their buff after a specific trigger).
    This is more than likely true, this was added back when we didn't have fancy colours, I know I ran a few blind updates on the DB when things came out to move things around and it might have got lost.

    I'm quite happy to move them around again if you can let me know what they are.
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    Trion have actually been awesome this evening and helped clarify some points.

    In this information it appears that there is another grouping for each weapon category, bonuses that unlock after EGO rating 2000. As well as the different types of the same weapon types as others have been commenting.

    The groupings will need to be updated as follows:

    - Assault Rifles, Sub Machine Guns, Light Machine Guns (Combined)
    - Assault Rifles, Sub Machine Guns, Light Machine Guns 2000 (NEW)
    - BMG
    - BMG 2000 (NEW)
    - Infector
    - Infector 2000 (NEW)
    - Rocket Launchers
    - Rocket Launchers 2000 (NEW)
    - Rocket Launchers 1 Clip (NEW)
    - Rocket Launchers 1 Clip 2000 (NEW)
    - Pistols
    - Pistols 2000 (NEW)
    - Pistols 1 Clip (NEW)
    - Pistols 1 Clip 2000 (NEW)
    - Pistols Auto (NEW)
    - Pistols Auto 2000 (NEW)
    - Bolt Action Sniper Rifles, Semi Auto Sniper Rifles (Combined)
    - Bolt Action Sniper Rifles, Semi Auto Sniper Rifles 2000 (NEW)
    - Combat Shotguns, Pump Shotguns (Combined)
    - Combat Shotguns, Pump Shotguns 2000 (NEW)
    - Shotguns Sawed-off
    - Shotguns Sawed-off 2000 (NEW)

    No mention of Detonators, potentially they are part of Rocket Launchers.

    Will be updating the table tomorrow with some new categories.

    EDIT: Updated the list.
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    LOL... "Here, we have all this info we could share, buuuuut... How about you do it instead."

    Anyone else get that feeling? Maybe you should ask for the math behind lockboxes lolol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevota View Post
    LOL... "Here, we have all this info we could share, buuuuut... How about you do it instead."

    Anyone else get that feeling? Maybe you should ask for the math behind lockboxes lolol.
    No company would ever release that kind of data, the lockbox is the end-game for Defiance with the rates toned to keep people playing or buying bits.

    However other more reasonable questions get answered in the livestream and in the forum

    P.S. I'd love the lockbox loot list, with or without drop chance and I've asked for it.
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    Interesting about some bonuses only showing after EGO 2000. I did think at one point that bonuses like 25% Clip Reloaded on Melee Kill, or 25% Speed Boost on Explosive Kill, weren't showing up until you reached a certain EGO. But I was under that EGO for such a small amount of time I couldn't tell. Is it just Purple Bonuses or do some others fall into this category?

    Also, I know I don't have them listed in my guide, but I do know most of what types of weapons the Mastery Bonuses can show up on also. If you weren't sure about those I might be able to help out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevota View Post
    Isnt this what i said earlier? He mentioned you can just hit the rarity button to display it that way.
    Yeah you're right. I'm sorry, I read your post too fast and didn't fully understand it. I still think it would make more sense to organize bonuses by rarity by default, because that's how I usually think about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilxain
    The Scatterguns are a base of .7 reload.
    Yes, but that's the base value. If you look at Etaew's bonus database, someone marked the *0.70 reload bonus (erroneously marked as epic instead of legendary) as appearing on pump shotguns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick07 View Post
    Also, I know I don't have them listed in my guide, but I do know most of what types of weapons the Mastery Bonuses can show up on also. If you weren't sure about those I might be able to help out.
    Any thoughts on what the Launchers / Detonators / Pistols 1 Clip means, literally 1 shot in clip or < 3 etc
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