What would it take for you to recommend Defiance to people

[Market]

I can't even believe this statement was typed - you and I must live on different planets.



So you're discouraged by the state of the forums and rather than allow other players to pick apart your ideas and suggestions you choose to submit tickets in game and then tell us all how respectful and eloquent they were and how Trion took them so very seriously they implemented them? Thanks?

See, I like to put my suggestions here for the only audience that can truly flesh them out (also the only audience that seems to care even in the slightest), the players...

Now I did start a big hub-bub on here about the Grenade Mechanic change and its effect on the Grenade based rolls and Grenadier synergy - as a result someone at Trion thought to change those. However, I see this less as them listening and more as a troubling sign that they don't understand the game that someone else programmed -- you know, those devs who were let go before Trion started traveling this "better road".

Since I don't have a list of the people who were working for Trion before and the ones who are still working there now, nor are any of us entitled to this information, I won't even touch this theory of yours of who was working there and when. It's speculation and I prefer to deal with facts.

As far as the better road, I live in a world where I pay attention to what the game was like at release (for me) and what it is now (for me). I suffer from FAR less disconnects than I used to, lag has decreased for me to a point of near nonexistence, gear rolls are more complete, I don't get short changed for ammunition with every gun each time I swap from primary to secondary, I've seen much more interaction from the Trion people on the forums that was going on at the start, I don't see occurrences of them speaking without finding out facts first, and their transparency has certainly gotten better since release.

Since none of us have any experience with the grenade changes, I'm not going to speculate what those changes will entail either.

What I have a problem with here is not sharing my ideas with others so they can be picked apart. If I felt like a majority of this community could have an adult discussion about such topics, I would be much more apt to share them here. However, I know from reading much of the negative side of this community that is not going to happen, so I prefer to share them directly with the developers instead of...

They don't take kindly to player suggestion; don't waste your brain power.

For the record, I never said "(I) choose to submit tickets in game and then tell us all how respectful and eloquent they were and how Trion took them so very seriously they implemented them." I said I prefer to do this to avoid the above interactions from the community.

[brandon81]

I convinced about 5 people to get it also bought a copy for a buddy i love this game i'm super excited about arkbreaker dlc can't wait to call down my own arkfalls

[Amack]

In this thread alone, on this single day, we have two alternatives to negativity, complaining, and threatening. Can you spot them?

[blotto33]

It would take a dedicated group of Devs constantly trying to make the game better. Defiance, therefore, would not qualify. See, all these guys have Rift and other "pet" projects they would rather work on and, frankly, play. The proof is in the TRION LIVESTREAM. Not only does Trion choose to play these other titles, they have no clue how to play Defiance themselves. Watch the LIVESTREAM and look for multiple cheats being used by the dev during gameplay. Its hilarious!! Staying alive is a challenge for these guys!! I will, however, continue to play Defiance myself, mainly because i've already thrown like $300 in the game. I would NEVER recommend it though.

[blotto33]

you cannot understand the frustration with playing a broken game for 8 months? they only just recently fixed the weapons generator to give you all the rolls coming to you!!

[blotto33]

i believe Trion had multiple companies bid to make this game and they accepted the low bid. Trion basically bought someone elses game, then realized they couldnt fix it. thats why they gotta change the entire game. Theyve also promised like 4 more dlcs for this! its funny but i'm so glad i did not buy this season pass

[Bonehead]

Some people enjoy the fact that the game is more casual based, in part because it is a trans-media experiment. Some people also enjoy the fact that there isn't a real gear treadmill and gated content based on skill, either. Some people have been longing for the missions to become co-op because, well not everyone has the reflexes to be highly skilled at shooters and need help with the Jackleg Joe and Nim missions.

Personally speaking, I am grateful for the casual aspect of the game because I spent the first half of my 40+ years doing the hardcore grind back when a PC having 4 megs of RAM was a powerhouse. Now, I just say no thanks. I play games for fun and relaxation, not to feel like a second job.

+1 to you my good sir.

[Tekrunner]

I don't tend to report problems here, or give suggestions, mainly because some people on this forum feel the need to verbally assault those threads with one-sided opinions of hatred and sarcasm.

The forums have this handy feature where you can add people to an ignore list, which hides their posts. This thread has helped me consolidate my own ignore list.

Are you serious? This game is horrible right now. I played for 5 months after launch and realized after a few months that this game is way too easy and lacks EVERYTHING.

5 - 10$ for 5 months of gameplay sounds like a good deal to me. Given its current price I would find it hard not to recommend Defiance to anyone who likes shooters. Sure, the game is far from perfect, but it's fun for at least a little while.

[Bonehead]

you cannot understand the frustration with playing a broken game for 8 months? they only just recently fixed the weapons generator to give you all the rolls coming to you!!

Well you are correct there. I wouldn't play a broken game for one month let alone eight.
On pc this game is far from broken.
I do admire your perseverance though.

[Jet1337]

I've had a lot of people come up to me and ask what game this is when I play it and I told them it's probably the worst MMO I've ever played. I will never recommend this game to anyone until:

1. There is a vast amount of content
2. There is no 100% guaranteed chance the game will boot you off the server within an hour. ( maybe a console issue )
3. Trion fixes more bugs and issues