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    Defiance Crafting/upgrading system

    Just some random idea I thought of while playing:

    I remember me and a friend were at pitfall mine and we saw all these blue ore things. Then we got to thinking, what could these be used for? Then we realized they were all over the dang map!

    Anyways, Those blue ore things could be used as an example as a material needed to craft weapons. Like, here's an idea: lets say you want a certain assault rifle. Well you can't just make one, but instead you need to find a white (common) assault rifle. After you find the assault rifle of your choosing, you need to find certain materials around the world to upgrade that weapon to a green weapon. Then green to blue, and blue to purple, and purple to orange, hmmm?! Looking for these blue ores gives a reason to actually explore the map.

    But, not everyone can just MAKE weapons. You should only be a certain level to craft better weapons. Let's say you're EGO level 1000, well then you can only make green weapons. Now lets say you're only in between EGO level 2000 and 3000, well then now you can make green and blue weapons. then 3000-4000 EGO can make green, blue, and purple. Then 4000-5000 can make green, blue, purple, and orange.

    Now, let's say you wanted to add an element to your gun like electricity, fire, or other weird elements you guys have, like syphon. Well certain enemies around the map do have elemental abilites *cough* Hellbugs *cough* and these guys have a chance to drop a material that lets you add an element to your weapon!

    Also, let's say you're EGO level 4000-5000 and you want an orange weapon. You can't just go from a white weapon to an orange weapon. You need to upgrade it from white to green, then green to blue, and so on.

    I was also thinking, if you want to get from green to the next color, you need to get a certain drop from enemy bosses either at major arkfalls, or co-op maps.

    So to make a weapon of your choosing, you need:

    1.) a white common weapon
    2.) blue ore things (The higher the Tier, the more blue ores you need)
    3.) ark salvage
    4.) some scrip (cause why not?)
    5.) A rare drop from a boss

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    So, no one likes this idea? Hmm... oh well.

    Although, I'd appreciate feedback, good or bad.

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    The blue ore I think is gulanite,
    With regards to your crafting idea, it's great but if I got to 1000 ego and was only able to make green and blues then I'd be annoyed, if worked hard getting to 1500 and sporting 2 oj's lol
    But really, the game has to follow parallel to the tv show and I'm not sure gulanite was harvested for gun upgrades.

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    I would like to be able to do many things with my weapons through a crafting system.
    To be honest, just upgrading or adding a nano isn't enough for me, I want to be able to change, well everything else too.
    For example, I got an orange lmg with all but one mag roll, and the one left was a reload roll, to me that is absolutly pointless. This gun also came nanoless and with a synergy I don't need or want on that weapon. The purple roll was ego recharge on full reload, even though it came with three mag bonuses, quite the opposite of what you would want. It would be almost as good as having a 200 round mag and the bonus be more damage from the last shot in clip when every enemy dies within 100 rounds.
    Because of these things I have a blue version that is equally, or even more suitied to killing things that I use instead.
    Really kind of putoff some crafting isn't in the game already.
    The only reason I could think of why there isn't something like a crafting system is that I guess they don't want to make it find one gun and mod it to whatever you like, and to promote what little trading we can accomplish on the format we were givin. In the end, so we buy lockboxes in hope of getting that "perfect" gun. Even though the opposite reaction to that is what happened for me. I've found myself not caring about the weapons so much anymore, I would never buy a lockbox now. What drove that point home even more for me is coming in on top or even first in multiple events using greens.

    TLDR- I would like a crafting system if we could change just about everything.

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    Crafting? No thanks.

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    i like jusgohe idea but think u should not be able to make ojs cause whats the point if all u needed to do is make a purp u found and then upgraded it i find 20 to 50 purps a day and only have fond 7 oj on my own(not trading for or givin to me ) and ive played ever since the betas and i would hate for it all to be for nothing so take a little pride in what u find and deel with it also it is a grat starter idea to somthing like mordernizing pre pach guns and ojs

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    Quote Originally Posted by goto View Post
    i find 20 to 50 purps a day
    ...which is why crafting isn't needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calysia View Post
    Crafting? No thanks.
    Agree, crafting in most cases is just a form of time sink.

    I've played too many mmos and wasted way too much time with crafting systems.

    Worst... Aion - spend days farming crap, then hit combine, for a slim chance at a legendary item that makes Defiance boxes look overly generous.
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    @Calysia
    Yes, we can get a lot of guns in a day, but I've gotten blues that are better than oranges.
    Just becasue it is in a higher tier doesn't automatically make it a better weapon.
    "I find 20-50 purps a day." I bet a lot end up being salvage. Mine do. Especially after maxing everything. I don't even need them for leveling.
    Atleast you had a reason that time, not just "No.".
    EDIT: That what you quoted was of out of context aswell.

    @Maixx
    The time sink you described is exactly how we get current oranges now. The only problem is you said "have a slim chance at", we suggested a guaruntee. I think the way you think this would work isn't how we, atleast I, intend for it to work. Also, nothing else in the game would be changed so it isn't like you would have to use a crafting system anyway.

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    I like the idea. And I would support it fully, with a few changes. I would say, that there is a button you use that confirms the action, like once you have loaded your mats into the device, or machine, which could be located at any number of places on the map, there should be a random chance to have the machine "add" extra stats?

    Could be fun. But only up to blue level stats. So you could say, have 2 different blue rolls.

    I'm ego 2248 give or take, only being able to craft blue would be highly irritating. So that restriction to me is a no go. Perhaps it could be reworked that if a lower ego player wanted to craft a nicer weapon, or higher rarity, they would need to supply twice, to three times as many materials ( not including boss drop). And stack a reasonable scrip price tag on the procedure. REASONABLE. lol

    I would also prefer different synergies too. As the ones we have now are boring, and only a very few are every used. Most people don't even buy or use weapons that are not a synergy they like. So I propose a change. You find.buy.recieve weapon. Say Purple tier, it has great stats, and decent rolls, and a nano. No synergy YET. Once you master the weapon you unlock the synergy for it. But that synergy is only for you. If you trade the weapon to someone else, it strips all of the mods and mastery, which you keep the mods, the mastery is gone, and the person you are selling/giving the weapon to gets a blank unmastered Purple weapon which to use, and they get their own synergy when they master it. I would hope that would calm this absolutely ridiculous in game trades where idiots are asking for 500k or more for a ****ing weapon.

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