Major Ark Breaks - Simple Request

[Storm58]

How does one go about fixing this issue though? There are many problems associated with this...

What happens if a single person drops one but only about 4 people from their clan is there? Then only 4 people can enter that instance.

Well, we all know that events of any sort record who has participated in them, regardless of if they have logged off or not. So, that being the case, no matter who throws down a battery, clans should be given a priority, as follows:

Once the "outside battle" has finished, the game looks at clans of those people that participated. If clan 'A' has 13 people that contributed, it gets 13 "spots" reserved for an instance inside. The other 7 (or whatever it comes to) for that instance are then given first come first served for randoms.

This would mean that if a clan has 13 people contribute and they go inside, that when a 14th clan member logs on, he probably won't be able to join... which, in a way, is okay because he hasn't contributed to the outside battle anywho. He can catch the next one or just join the instance with randoms.

If there are two or more clans, the system should try and combine clans, if math allows: Clan 'A' has 8 people, Clan 'B' has 14 people, Clan 'C' has 6 people. This should spawn *at least* two instances (with a third for randoms that were fighting there). Instance 1 would contain 'A' and 'C' with room for 6 randoms while 'B' gets Instance 2 with room for 6 randoms (and Instance 3... is spawned based on randoms that contributed).

This way, clans can actually work together (in a way) and everyone is happy. Granted, there are probably times when a small number of randoms would need to be thrown into an ark that was already going so that they weren't stuck at 4 people (of course this might not be a bad idea as people always flock to the site and could then join...).

That's the gist of it. Ideas? Oh, and a side note, I think that players should get a x10 boost to XP and Scrip for *each* spike they place (or something like that) while fighting inside and out of that ark.

[Shadow Andreas]

How does one go about fixing this issue though? There are many problems associated with this...

What happens if a single person drops one but only about 4 people from their clan is there? Then only 4 people can enter that instance.

Well, we all know that events of any sort record who has participated in them, regardless of if they have logged off or not. So, that being the case, no matter who throws down a battery, clans should be given a priority, as follows:

Once the "outside battle" has finished, the game looks at clans of those people that participated. If clan 'A' has 13 people that contributed, it gets 13 "spots" reserved for an instance inside. The other 7 (or whatever it comes to) for that instance are then given first come first served for randoms.

This would mean that if a clan has 13 people contribute and they go inside, that when a 14th clan member logs on, he probably won't be able to join... which, in a way, is okay because he hasn't contributed to the outside battle anywho. He can catch the next one or just join the instance with randoms.

If there are two or more clans, the system should try and combine clans, if math allows: Clan 'A' has 8 people, Clan 'B' has 14 people, Clan 'C' has 6 people. This should spawn *at least* two instances (with a third for randoms that were fighting there). Instance 1 would contain 'A' and 'C' with room for 6 randoms while 'B' gets Instance 2 with room for 6 randoms (and Instance 3... is spawned based on randoms that contributed).

This way, clans can actually work together (in a way) and everyone is happy. Granted, there are probably times when a small number of randoms would need to be thrown into an ark that was already going so that they weren't stuck at 4 people (of course this might not be a bad idea as people always flock to the site and could then join...).

That's the gist of it. Ideas? Oh, and a side note, I think that players should get a x10 boost to XP and Scrip for *each* spike they place (or something like that) while fighting inside and out of that ark.

Good post Storm....an addition would be to go by group first (I'll explain in a minute) then by clan and finally by filling the spots with randoms. This way if 2 clans are trying to work together....the leaders can group up first.....get everyone to the ArkBreak....and then both clans would get in to the same instance (up to the limit).

[Mike Chone]

What happens if a single person drops one but only about 4 people from their clan is there? Then only 4 people can enter that instance.

Well, we all know that events of any sort record who has participated in them, regardless of if they have logged off or not. So, that being the case, no matter who throws down a battery, clans should be given a priority, as follows:

It only takes a grand total of 18M damage to kill him (the hints dropped from test -- someone correct me if I'm wrong). My clan, just 10 (maybe even 8) of us could do this on our own, so I would appreciate that even if we were dumb enough to have 4 people present when we dropped 4 spikes that we be put into the same instance with the ability to invite others in (non-clan friends). Actually I'm not even going to ask for this yet, I just want the ability to have an instance dedicated to just a singular clan.

The problem with introducing multiple clans into the mix, is some clans have zero organization and I personally don't want my clan penalized for this because we had a few D/C's when the 'break starts -- and if there is 3 or 4 of another clan there, and screw up the instance where a clan just dropped 4 spikes, then that still remains unfair to the clan that dropped the spikes.

[Shadow Andreas]

Mike, I understand what you are saying in the respect that if you have X people in your clan at a Major that you want to be on your own. But if they were to implement that logic.....what happens when only 2 people of any clan are alone with randoms...they would be put in their own instance and it would be impossible for them to be successful. Does this make any sense or did I completely miss what you were saying?

[Mike Chone]

Mike, I understand what you are saying in the respect that if you have X people in your clan at a Major that you want to be on your own. But if they were to implement that logic.....what happens when only 2 people of any clan are alone with randoms...they would be put in their own instance and it would be impossible for them to be successful. Does this make any sense or did I completely miss what you were saying?

I think you missed it. Notice my wording Shadow: I stated if I lay down all 4 spikes. If 2 people from a clan lay down 4 spikes then it should be understood they're creating a private just for their clan. Else, they should lay down 1 and let others lay down the rest to pug. Else if you lay down all 4 and not even 2-4 people there then either you're very rich (in game) or very generous. At any rate, those 2-4 should have their own instance, while later on having the ability to selectively 'invite' others inside.

[Newbe]

I totally agree. But at the risk of sounding like a noob, what is a PUG? I know a small dog that is cute and kinda hyper....But in reference to the game?

TIA
Booker O'Dell/Damien Ried

[Mike Chone]

I totally agree. But at the risk of sounding like a noob, what is a PUG? I know a small dog that is cute and kinda hyper....But in reference to the game?

TIA
Booker O'Dell/Damien Ried

Pick-Up-Group or impromptu raid/arkbreak

[Shadow Andreas]

I think you missed it. Notice my wording Shadow: I stated if I lay down all 4 spikes. If 2 people from a clan lay down 4 spikes then it should be understood they're creating a private just for their clan. Else, they should lay down 1 and let others lay down the rest to pug. Else if you lay down all 4 and not even 2-4 people there then either you're very rich (in game) or very generous. At any rate, those 2-4 should have their own instance, while later on having the ability to selectively 'invite' others inside.

Oh...ok....so what you are saying is that if anyone places all 4....and they have X amount of clan members present....that the clan would get their own instance and other instances would be opened for everyone else....right? Then while still outside if someone showed up that you wanted.....you could invite them to your instance.

[Mike Chone]

Oh...ok....so what you are saying is that if anyone places all 4....and they have X amount of clan members present....that the clan would get their own instance and other instances would be opened for everyone else....right? Then while still outside if someone showed up that you wanted.....you could invite them to your instance.

Precisely.

[Shadow Andreas]

I don't disagree with any of this at all....but I also think that this is the "new shiny" and the new will wear off (I know that doesn't fix anything for right now and I do agree that these are all good mechanics being discussed and something should be implemented).

I did a DM ArkFall last night with one of my clan mates (Zugo)....there were only 4 of us for the fist 2 minors and by the time we got to the final....there were maybe 7-10 of us...total! Everyone is currently just doing ArkBreaks. (just thought I would share this)