The new surge bolters are overpowered and need to be nerfed asap

[GridSufer]

Forgot I had this on my EU character so please don't nerf it before I sell it lol.


2266 VOT Surge Bolter
No nano, Syn Assassin
XP is 15% crit from the hip.
1.15 Crit mult
15% DMG on next grenade
1.10 Fire rate
Melee electric

Hahahaha!

That is the only valid argument to not nerf something 'you can't nerf it I haven't sold it yet!'

[Tallon]

If they do decide to nerf the splitshot, maybe they can buff some of the other guns that are pretty much worthless.
There are alot of weapons in defiance that are no better than using a slingshot.
While getting some truly crazy-high scores was fun with the splitshot, I am one that likes to use all the weapons in my inventory. Some balancing is needed accross the board.

[GridSufer]

If they do decide to nerf the splitshot, maybe they can buff some of the other guns that are pretty much worthless.
There are alot of weapons in defiance that are no better than using a slingshot.
While getting some truly crazy-high scores was fun with the splitshot, I am one that likes to use all the weapons in my inventory. Some balancing is needed accross the board.

I think Trion forgot to put the 'BETA' sign on the patcher to let people know, it certainly feels like a beta game sometimes!

[kasaitenma]

after play testing the surge bolter, i think that if they significantly decrease the time u r allowed to hold a full charge would instantly balence it. basically make it so that a full charge is only held for a second rather than the twenty seconds we currently get w/ a full charge. in addition, when the charge expires w/o being fired the bolter overheats kinda like the bmg when u hold the fire button down to long w/o connecting w/ some1. ur load mag goes to 0, u cant touch it for a little while (cause it overheated) and then u have to do a full reload before u can fire. lettme know what yall think. the idea is to make the weapon take real skill to use rather than being noob mode. in addition the charge light no longer shows up while in cloak which is an indirect buff in pvp idk if its been discussed

[Deunan]

They just need to make it like another charged particle sniper rifle. Make full charge take 3 seconds longer and give it recoil so that it's impossible to land all shots on a crit spot with a full charge shot.

[Thomdark]

They just need to make it like another charged particle sniper rifle. Make full charge take 3 seconds longer and give it recoil so that it's impossible to land all shots on a crit spot with a full charge shot.

That´s it. But Trion is simply doing nothing. First instance boss is killed with 2 shots from the surge. It´s OP and distroys game mechanics in all parts of the game.

Hope they fix it soon. In my opinion, it´s not OP it´s a bug.

[Vikingkid3]

Granted I did not scour the thread and the search function doesn't allow it, but I love how PvP isn't really even brought up in regards to this gun. Nef, a few others and myself have been whining about this gun ever since it came out because of it's brokenness in PvP. Now, with Trion's ample stock of intelligence it's reached those same levels, and beyond, of OP in PvE. So much so that it's not even worth mentioning the effects it has in PvP. Then again PvP died a long time ago, and there is no conceivable defibrillator that could revive something like the PvP in this game. If there was ever a stronger argument against a development team never playing their game nor having any idea what to do to balance the gameplay, I've never heard of one.

[Deunan]

...Nef, a few others and myself have been whining about this gun ever since it came out because of it's brokenness in PvP...

Ironically Trick indicated they're fixing the PvP apsect of the Surge Bolter. Since so many weapons can OHK now with the patch that removed damage reduction perk stacking from the game, the one aspect of the Surge Bolter that remains is its hip firing accuracy and that is something they intend to remove from the game.

[duction]

they just made them stupid powerful to make the game more fun over xmas, dont worry they will kill them off in January, we all know it will happen lol.

[SuicideRun]

Oh and one thing people that defend the bolter should realize for when everyone uses one. A person quite a bit better with it than you are, can nearly shut you out of scoring or killing(And there is always at least one person better than you:P).

Well I have yet to find that person, but I keep looking.