The new surge bolters are overpowered and need to be nerfed asap

[Bonehead]

You're absolutely right.
Everyone should use the Surge Bolter all the time as the only weapon.
In fact, The Devs should replace all the weapons in our inventory's with Surge Bolters because, being the most powerfull weapon we can shoot, AND being almost impossible to miss a hipshot fired from a Surge Bolter there's really no reason to HAVE any other weapon.

I'll bet that when they follow your most excellent suggestion and do away with all the other weapons they'll save so much programing effort fixing weapons that they can just draw straws to fire one of the two devs left.

I don't know about all these other QQ'ers, but I find using one weapon all the time throughout the whole game to be the most fun I can have sober without car keys involved.

I don't think I could in joy it more....

They have TWO devs left?

[crasher]

They have TWO devs left?

Well, we are restricted to 'whole numbers', and all....

[weisguy9]

lol how are things like this even a argument? How can anyone defend the Surge Bolter in how it works? For everyone making sense and trying to explain on how the Surge Bolter is over powered (when clearly the proof is in the game play.) keep in mind that you are trying to explain something to somebody who are clearly looking past the reality -the proof in the game play-.

If they decided to look past that, the undeniable reality that this gun does what it does then they are already far gone. To dumb or stubborn to accept it for what it really is. Ive done this, with cloak, big boomers, surge bolters, and infectors. The ppl who use this **** don't want to hear it. Doesn't matter if you make a power point presentation pointing out the facts of it all. They are to dumb to understand or refuse to accept it because its cheap and they use it.

There is no debate with these kind of dopes. Their minds are not a wall you are trying to get the facts through, their minds are a foggy mist. Whatever facts you throw at them are not hitting a wall but rather go through one end of the mist and out the other. They refuse to grasp it for what it really is. They deny reality of things and substitute their own.

They don't care. They are philistines. Game play mechanics and game balance doesn't matter to them. They are 110% content with the idea of staring at a screen like mouth breathers killing things in 1 hit with over powered weapons with no strategy or thought provoking way to do so. That's the way they like it and there is nothing...nothing you can say to change their minds. If there was then there wouldn't be 3 threads about this same subject with over 5+ pages of replies.

Its the same things being said over and over in just different ways trying to explain it all. Obviously enough these back and fourth arguments mean nothing. Trion does not take whats said in these pissing contests to evaluate and help fix the game. There have been dozens and dozens of threads with hundreds of replies over the months since the Surge Bolter was introduced pointing out how the Surge Bolter is overpowered. And what happened??? Trion went off and made it even stronger to the point its killing Volge in 1 hit. So whats the point of all this?

Yeah, but it sure is fun.

[PTR47]

Yeah, but it sure is fun.

I think our definition of fun is at odds. I enjoy working things out and feeling clever. The new SB is not clever. The first night they changed it, it was all I played with. The second day I took it out of my loadouts. I haven't logged back in after the second day. I feel unclever to use it, and I feel stupid to not use it.

This is a problem.

[GridSufer]

They have TWO devs left?

Trick and Greg.

The forums have a bigger team....

[Probert]

I don't post much, and don't really like to call out negative stuff.

I really do actually enjoy the game I know there's stuff that needs fixed...

But like the title says, its a joke. I don't use them and when I go to a siege and see somebody using them I leave.

Is Trion going to do something about this?

[GridSufer]

Yup.
It's due a fix as states by Trick.

In fact there is a multi page thread in existence for the same subject,..
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...be-nerfed-asap

Still a couple of kids (whose parents shouldn't have bought them the game) saying the SB doesn't need changing...

[vizibledog]

Me too. Yesterday, I was first to a siege so waited for some back up before starting. The next two people to show up had surge bolters so I just left and ended up logging off a few minutes later. Sieges used to be my favourite part of the game.

[GridSufer]

I use my pistol/launcher combo at sieges, but if I see an SB I then loose all chances at getting any kills so I whip mine out too....
Due to this 60% of the sieges I have taken part in, I have used the abomination

[Probert]

Well, I'm glad I don't feel alone in this, its crazy that Trion did this....if this was some other game this would have been fixed the night they made the mistake of making them OP....oh well I guess I will just have to wait.