The new surge bolters are overpowered and need to be nerfed asap

[Tekrunner]

rofl? PVP and the word balance dont belong in the same sentence in any game. Any game that has pvp and pve will NEVER be balanced so trying to balance pvp only makes it worse.

Seriously though people get married to a game and take it way too seriously. From a new players perspective this game comes across as a fun use and throw kind of game.

There are OP weapons in any game, they either get removed or re-presented in a new form and flavor then its the same story all over again... Its 2014 for crying out loud, there are more games than there are players out there but gamer mentality is still stuck in the 90s..

There is a big, big difference between some unbalance (which Defiance PvP has always had, and will most probably always have) and a gun that 1-hit kills everyone at any distance with very little need to aim. Have you even tried to play any PvP? It sounds like you're not aware of the full scale of the problem.

Maybe you personally don't care about this game, but some people do. You may find that ridiculous and passé, but that's how it is.

[DanteYoda]

I agree the surge bolters are messed up (i didn't early on, i do now) but a lot of people seem to forget or not notice everything Before DLC 2 was a lot harder and it feels like everything got nerfed majorly, Volge used to be death solo etc, now they are easy..

So the Surge Bolter Buff with the AI nerf = easy content, i'd really like to see the AI back how it was to be honest, also the stims/spikes aren't helping..

[duction]

Just get rid of stims and spikes? They suck really bad for pvp,.. Don't see them get used in pve except on the war master,

[Bane_Of_Legends]

You on xbox NA? I have a couple, one green and one blue depending on your ego you can have one of them.

I appreciate the offer mate, but I'm on PS3 NA. Yeah, I know. Sucks to be me. :P

[twitch reflex]

Just get rid of stims and spikes? They suck really bad for pvp,.. Don't see them get used in pve except on the war master,

I agree with this they are not needed they make every thing except the warmaster really easy. They need to remove spikes and stims, change graneds back, and change the damage resistance perk stacking back.

[squidgod2000]

I agree with this they are not needed they make every thing except the warmaster really easy. They need to remove spikes and stims, change graneds back, and change the damage resistance perk stacking back.

And fire whoever thought this stuff up.

Personally, I think the team should have one day a week where they're required to play Defiance for eight hours. It will both punish them for their past actions and educate them about their product.

[crasher]

And fire whoever thought this stuff up.

Personally, I think the team should have one day a week where they're required to play Defiance for eight hours. It will both punish them for their past actions and educate them about their product.

Seriously in the top 3 for best post of the week.

And I'm not sure I even read the other 2 yet.

[JaygunJesile]

Good news is, my semi auto sniper is at 20 now. Thanks to my triple crit surge with a mastery of 10% crit from the hip. Lol, really? You couldn't ask for something more hilariously fun/broken to use. Wait, never mind I found something else that's more funny.

[crasher]

Good news is, my semi auto sniper is at 20 now. Thanks to my triple crit surge with a mastery of 10% crit from the hip. Lol, really? You couldn't ask for something more hilariously fun/broken to use. Wait, never mind I found something else that's more funny.

No, the funny part is how most of the SB/SS users pick all the (low damage) Troopers off first before working on the Bombers and Viscera.

That means that the targets the rest of us can make some points on are gone in their first few shots, and then the ones they can take in two shots (faster than we can reload a mag) are the only things left.
By the time I can put half a mag of tachmag into something it's already dead by an SB.

It's so much fun I don't think I can stand the glee of bothering with any more.

Wheeeeee

[Runebane]

No, the funny part is how most of the SB/SS users pick all the (low damage) Troopers off first before working on the Bombers and Viscera.

The last couple days I've been playing around with a surge bolter a little. (Though from force of habit I tend to use the scope even with that weapon. I'm use to non-charged bolt action snipers.) Even with my poor skills and medicore green quality bolter non-elite troopers can be 1-shot. Elite troopers require a follow up shot, doesn't have to be full charge.

Bombers I try to take out asap. They don't seem to have all that much health and leaving them alive is a recipe for disaster.

Viscera are a just a pain. Especially the elites. Multiple shots to take them down even with a surge bolter (for me at least). After the first shot they are targeting you. Which means you wind up running around instead of shooting. Which means less score. However - if you don't take them down and try to leave them for everyone else you could wind up with multiple Viscera on you. That can really wreck your day. Really depends on how many people are at the siege.

The thing is, if others are shooting at the bombers and viscera, then the surge bolters have nothing to worry about. They can stand around racking up points instead of dodging stuff.

Want to say though that I fully agree with the thought that surge bolters are completely overpowered. Was gone a while, but I've been trying to get back into this game. So far I've only really used one in the sieges. Was trying and failing to get the 40K score mark at sieges. I know I'm not that good at this game. None of my weapon skills are maxed and my EGO score is just a bit over 1000. However, I picked up a surge bolter and hit 75K score my next siege. Was listed first. In my opinion you should never be able to reach the number 1 slot just because of the weapon type you use.