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    Quote Originally Posted by Deunan View Post
    Average players aren't going to have any realistic chance of getting Tier 10 score without relying completely upon the Surge Bolter
    Ok, I'll plead guilty here, sorta. I have yet to hit 40K but I do like the bolter, plus either a MG or DET. And yeah, I can take down smaller Volge who would eat my lunch up close and personal. For the TEs I do better with run n gun and Detonators. When I start hitting 40k -- or even hit it once -- I promise to feel guilty.

    I'm not 100% convinced I can't do as well with a SAW or a Thunder and an ammo spike though. Just keep my aim on the face and down they go. How is that different? Really, am I doing something wrong here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesseract View Post
    I'm not 100% convinced I can't do as well with a SAW or a Thunder and an ammo spike though. Just keep my aim on the face and down they go. How is that different? Really, am I doing something wrong here?
    The Surge Bolter will outdamage a Thunder or SAW six ways to Sunday on the same Volge in the hands of players with comparable skill (especially if you use an ammo spike instead of a damage spike)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deunan View Post
    The Surge Bolter will outdamage a Thunder or SAW six ways to Sunday on the same Volge in the hands of players with comparable skill (especially if you use an ammo spike instead of a damage spike)
    Yep, I couldn't believe it when I did a couple of volge emergencies with that beast. One shot for you... one shot for you... one shot for you... three shots for you Mr. Viscera with no stims or spikes or overcharge or ego perks nor nuthin.

    I'm sticking with "unintended outcome" for 400 on the weapon balancing pass just past Alex.
    1.05 shotgun mag boost? REALLY?
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    I admit I try to overscore at sieges with my pre-patch purple assassin surge bolter ... But I try to keep to one area where people usually wont migrate. Personally I'm just overscoring to get the clan bonuses, but I sometimes need to remind myself I'm not the only person trying to score. Pissing others off by taking kills ain't what I need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bentu View Post
    Buffing the volge won't sort out a god mode gun, how's the game supposed to be a challenge with weapons like that?
    I tried the Surge bolter its still not as good as my VBI TACC Assault Rifle with commando scope in my opinion, easily get over 50k with that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanteYoda View Post
    I tried the Surge bolter its still not as good as my VBI TACC Assault Rifle with commando scope in my opinion, easily get over 50k with that as well.
    Your current score is irrelevant. It's what's going to happen to your score when you're shooting the same Volge that one or two other players are also shooting with Surge Bolters. You won't even get to unload half an unmodded clip on a Volge Viscera before it evaporates from the Surge Bolter damage if that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deunan View Post
    Your current score is irrelevant. It's what's going to happen to your score when you're shooting the same Volge that one or two other players are also shooting with Surge Bolters. You won't even get to unload half an unmodded clip on a Volge Viscera before it evaporates from the Surge Bolter damage if that happens.
    SO TRUE!!!! I was toying around with my blue Splitshot last night (no one around just shooting things) and it was silly sick...one shot DM and most anything else that I came across! I did use it inside a Minor ArkBreak to see what it would do...I was one and two hit killing the Volge and Drones. I changed back to my standard weapon to continue lvling my skill. It is in one of my WM loads to see if it works well for me.


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    To Tesseract:

    I went to 2 volge seiges last night with my blue Surge bolter and trippled my score (at least) I got 36k and 38k which is a personal best for me. I get nowhere near that with any other weapon. Just hip shotting most of the time things just melt, its fun, and I might get to top tier, but its not right, I know I dont have that kind of skill.

    I think I was lucky to have 2 seiges where I didnt have much competition, Either the other guys werent using bolters, or they were at the other 2 points. I would not have gotten those scores if I had someone else working a bolter standing next to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibblehouse View Post
    To Tesseract:

    I went to 2 volge seiges last night with my blue Surge bolter and trippled my score (at least) I got 36k and 38k which is a personal best for me. I get nowhere near that with any other weapon. Just hip shotting most of the time things just melt, its fun, and I might get to top tier, but its not right, I know I dont have that kind of skill.

    I think I was lucky to have 2 seiges where I didnt have much competition, Either the other guys werent using bolters, or they were at the other 2 points. I would not have gotten those scores if I had someone else working a bolter standing next to me.
    It is CRAZY accurate from the hip and very forgiving on the crit spots.

    Maybe if it couldn't be charged from the hip and the hip accuracy was WAY WAY off, like with the Volge sniper rifle?


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    TBH I think it was fine the way it was before.
    1.05 shotgun mag boost? REALLY?
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