Volge and AOE Weapons are NOT good to fight the Warmaster.

[twitch reflex]

I'm making this thread because it seems that a lot of people think Volge weapons are very effective against the warmaster even though that's not the case.
The best and fastest way to beat the Warmaster is to break the armor with a high single target DPS weapon then use a wolfhound after it breaks. Using a Volge weapon does get you a crit when he's hanging but it takes a lot longer to break the armor. This leads to way less DPS not just for you but the whole group. It's a DPS race and the faster you break the armor the more damage you and other people can inflict.

This thread shows some people who regularly score high and don't use these weapons. http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...ION!!!-Freinds
This thread has a video with people using single target DPS weapons and beating the warmaster with 3 min left http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-3-18mio-video

The only usefull AOE weapon is the the groundpounder but should be used as a secondary only when you cant see his arm. The groundpounder does not help break the armor/ice however it does direct damage to his health.

To make this clear AOE means area of effect. This includes Volge weapons, BMGs, rockets, couriers, clustershots, and detonators except groundpounder. Also infectors have very low DPS.

Weapons I recommend to break the armor are single target DPS weapons.
Examples:
FRC Saw you can find one at the Top Notch and Echelon rep vendor.
VBI Thunder and you can find one at the Paradise and Von Bach rep vendor.
FRC Heavy assault Carbine you can find one at the Top Notch and Echelon rep vendor.
FRC Subcarbine and you can find one at the Top Notch and Echelon rep vendor.
Techmag pulser
VBI assault riffle
VOT Blaster

Those weapons are high single target DPS weapons. Adding a control burst mod to any of those guns except the sub carbine will increase the fire rate. The regular VOT pulser has less DPS than the techmag or subcarbine but you can find one at the Soleptor rep vendor if you want to use that.

The only weapon I recommend for when the armor breaks is the wolfhound.

Surge bolter is a good alternative if you don't have a wolfhound and the Thorn Liro vendor sells one with two crit bonuses.

[GridSufer]

The only time they're partly useful is after the crystal is smashed, and even then you'll be no hitting mediocre scores....

[twitch reflex]

The only time they're partly useful is after the crystal is smashed, and even then you'll be no hitting mediocre scores....

No they are very low DPS on a single target and a lot less usefull than other weapons. They do less damage than the weapons you use to break the armor after you break the armor. And its a lot less DPS than the wolfhound. Plus the Volge weapons make it harder for others to aim because of the animation. It makes it harder to see so more people miss.

[samuelsinn]

i find after armor is broken that surge bolter does some nice damage at a 50-75% charge. but i only use mine when hes hanging or when hes stunned on the ground or spiting his lazer beam from his face.

i agree about the DPS i dont mind people useing the ground pound to attack his HP aslong as helg the people are atleast working on that arm.

i must say though i send much love to my core family . WE ROLLED IN DEEP and took down the war master 6 and 4 befor i stoped doing them . we still had others that where going and had a nice wounderfull record of 10 and 2 or more.

if you see a core. and theres only 4
WAIT AND THERE WILL BE MORE .

[twitch reflex]

Yeah the surge bolter is a good option also specially if your far from the warmaster. I also forgot the Vot blaster pistol and an assault riffle to break the armor.

[Punisher Illinois Blue]

I'm making this thread because it seems that a lot of people think Volge weapons are very effective against the warmaster even though that's not the case.
The best and fastest way to beat the Warmaster is to break the armor with a high single target DPS weapon then use a wolfhound after it breaks. Using a Volge weapon does get you a crit when he's hanging but it takes a lot longer to break the armor. This leads to way less DPS not just for you but the whole group. It's a DPS race and the faster you break the armor the more damage you can inflict.

This thread shows some people who regularly score high and don't use these weapons. http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...ION!!!-Freinds
This thread has a video with people using single target DPS weapons and beating the warmaster with 3 min left http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-3-18mio-video

The only usefull AOE weapon is the the groundpounder but should be used as a secondary only when you can see his arm. The groundpounder does not help break the ice however it does direct damage to his health.

To make this clear AOE means area of effect. This includes BMGs, rockets, couriers, clustershots, and detonators except groundpounder. Also infectors have very low DPS.

Weapons I recommend to break the armor are single target DPS weapons.
Examples:
FRC Saw you can find one at the Top Notch and Echelon rep vendor.
VBI Thunder and you can find one at the Paradise and Von Bach rep vendor.
FRC Heavy assault Carbine you can find one at the Top Notch and Echelon rep vendor.
FRC Subcarbine and you can find one at Tue Top Notch and Echelon rep vendor.
Techmag pulser
VBI assault riffle
VOT Blaster

Those weapons are high single target DPS weapons. Adding a control burst mod to any of those guns except the sub carbine will increase the fire rate. The regular VOT pulser has less DPS than the techmag or subcarbine but you can find one at the Soleptor rep vendor if you want to use that.

The only weapon I recommend for when the armor breaks is the wolfhound.

I have to disagree the Lightning does an amazing job. The first time we blew off Sapphire Weapons right arm armor in 2 min was when I was using the Lightning. When I say we I dont mean all the people on the fourms. Most the time when I use the saw or thunder with burst I raely ever get the armor off and out of those times its at a time that makes it not matter.

Their prob are weapons better than the Lightning but it does work pretty good when I have used it. At on point I crit with 35000 but the shots were mostly doing 22000 per shot.

[twitch reflex]

I have to disagree the Lightning does an amazing job. The first time we blew off Sapphire Weapons right arm armor in 2 min was when I was using the Lightning. When I say we I dont mean all the people on the fourms. Most the time when I use the saw or thunder with burst I raely ever get the armor off and out of those times its at a time that makes it not matter.

Their prob are weapons better than the Lightning but it does work pretty good when I have used it.

Not sure if your trolling or not because that weapon is really bad to break the armor. Just becuase you used the lighting riffle doesn't mean the armor broke because of you.

[Punisher Illinois Blue]

Not sure if your trolling or not. But just becuase you used the lighting riffle doesn't mean the armor broke because of you.

I am just going by all the times I have fought him. For me it seems when I have used any LMG it doesnt work out well.

[twitch reflex]

I am just going by all the times I have fought him. For me it seems when I have used any LMG it doesnt work out well.

That could be because of the people in the instance. If people are not placing spikes using AOE weapons and are waiting for revives it will affect how well you do. The spikes will directly affect your damage out put so you got to take that into account.

[Punisher Illinois Blue]

That could be because of the people in the instance. If people are not placing spikes using AOE weapons and are waiting for revives it will affect how well you do. The spikes will directly affect your damage out put so you got to take that into account.

Unless I am low because i forgot to buy some I use my own spikes.