Fix to stop early lock breakers on WM

[Nightmare Walkin]

This is not true. One person could go around and destroy each lock with 8 charged shots from a slipshot......
*other weapons too, just not as fast....

I could be wrong, but I believe he is saying they should implement "4 diff ppl to break locks" not saying that is the case now. Or maybe I'm reading into his post more than he meant. If not, then it's my idea. It might work since there aren't usually more than one or two lock breaking Noobs/trolls per instance.

[Kibblehouse]

I have to disagree here. This is not something which needs to be "Fixed". This is what happens when they FINALLY give us a more difficult boss which actually requires some strategy and tactics to beat. Its a timed event so getting enough people in the room before you start it is something which needs to be done if you want a better chance of beating the boss.

Those who truly want to beat him find clans or groups who do this and follow the other strats well. Or they need to be lucky enough to draw a good random group when they enter the Arcbreak (like me). Those who dont care will just continue to blow the locks as soon as they drop down so they can get their keys as fast as possible.

In my opinion "Fixing" things so the locks cant be opened without a minimum of people would be dumbing things down again.

Oh and before anyone screams about Eliteist players. Know that I am one of the players Dumbing Down would help greatly. I don't want or need it, its nice to have a boss where the question is "IF" he dies, not just "when"

[Nightmare Walkin]

I have to disagree here. This is not something which needs to be "Fixed". This is what happens when they FINALLY give us a more difficult boss which actually requires some strategy and tactics to beat. Its a timed event so getting enough people in the room before you start it is something which needs to be done if you want a better chance of beating the boss.

Those who truly want to beat him find clans or groups who do this and follow the other strats well. Or they need to be lucky enough to draw a good random group when they enter the Arcbreak (like me). Those who dont care will just continue to blow the locks as soon as they drop down so they can get their keys as fast as possible.

In my opinion "Fixing" things so the locks cant be opened without a minimum of people would be dumbing things down again.

Oh and before anyone screams about Eliteist players. Know that I am one of the players Dumbing Down would help greatly. I don't want or need it, its nice to have a boss where the question is "IF" he dies, not just "when"

Spoken like any non ps3 player. If I get in at all, then I have to worry about idiots breaking the locks before people from clan, group, friends, etc. can get in. Preparing does jack. We don't play as stupidly as everyone seems to think. It's just that the morons seem to get in while half the clan is logging back in.

[Archangel]

Since i have yet to take part in a WM arkfall i would think the easiest solution would be to require a "X" number of players to stand in a circle like most co-op maps require before the event could get started.

If there are not enough players then there aren't enough to finish the fight. Easiest solution imo.

I would not want them to nerf the fight down to where just 4 or 5 people could finish it. It will take people time to figure this out just like it took time for them to figure out about the Hellbug Arkfalls. Screams and shouts of "DON'T SHOOT THE SKITTERLINGS!!!!!" After a while people got the idea and those arkfalls are going much better.

[N3gativeCr33p]

After a while people got the idea and those arkfalls are getting facerolled.

Fixed that for you.

[Archangel]

Fixed that for you.

hehehe

Yeah they are getting rolf stompped but its better than what it used to be which included but was not limited to foul language, hair pulling, giving your monitor the bird ,|,,( ' - ' ),,|, or any other expression of anger. lol

But yes. Facerolled indeed thanks for fix.

[Etaew]

The arkbreak exterior and interior are essentially the player gathering phase, by the time you jump down the holes you "should" have enough players. Experience tells me that isn't enough. Maybe a few more waves on the outside and inside stages is the answer.

[Telemachus]

Arkbreak earlier today. YES that's a 3 player leaderboard, came in first 1mil + I didn't shoot the lock.


Actually, I spoke in /team mentioning to one other player not to shoot the locks politely at first... another guy dropped in mid break. Nice that they rezzed other another, we may not still not had a chance to succeed, the use of an infector was a nice touch I thought.


There was a full group outside when we ported into the first floor, I guess picked the wrong entrance to queue in ?


Next arkbreak had 8 players, the next had 20 and a chance but everyone got booted toward the end *blip* outside .. asking each other what just happened? The following one took the WM down, 20 players too, who'd a thunk it.

[crasher]

Arkbreak earlier today. YES that's a 3 player leaderboard, came in first 1mil + I didn't shoot the lock.


Actually, I spoke in /team mentioning to one other player not to shoot the locks politely at first... another guy dropped in mid break. Nice that they rezzed other another, we may not still not had a chance to succeed, the use of an infector was a nice touch I thought.


There was a full group outside when we ported into the first floor, I guess picked the wrong entrance to queue in ?


Next arkbreak had 8 players, the next had 20 and a chance but everyone got booted toward the end *blip* outside .. asking each other what just happened? The following one took the WM down, 20 players too, who'd a thunk it.

• A lot of newbs who can't/don't communicate with other players to find out whats going on besides what they just assume.
• A lot of people who assume that it's just like a siege, and they are gonna solo it one day come hell/high-water.
• A lot of people who just don't give a Votan rat's azz about anybody else.

You can make it take 4 people each simultaneously shooting a lock, but even 5 people aren't enough... what are you going to do? 20 separate simultaneous locks?

Sure maybe you don't get Orange from a failed WM, but you get crap loot either way. The only things different are the (failed/broken, with a promise to fix) pursuit to kill a WM, and a warm/fuzzy feeling.

And what are you going to do when 4 people put down ArkSpikes, and only 17 people show up, when it takes a minimum of (pulled a number out of the air) 18 people to start it? Nobody is showing up at minor/majors NOW in enough force of numbers to ensure more than 3 people at an event inside sometimes as you already showed. What happens when those 3 people who are thinking of quitting this week actually do, and there aren't enough people on the server to start a Break, much less show up AT the Break to start it?

These are perplexing times, my friends.... I never thought I'd live so long to see it all come to this.
I blame the parents....

[TASHINKA]

i would rather wait 10mins per arkfall, than waste all day doing fails because people start them when only 5 people are in the room, id say at least 5mins or mabey the locks just can't be broke until a min number of people are in the room.

I have never really got mad at anyone ingame until couple days ago when the same idiot (saw him open 2 others early) opened the locks with about 6 people in room. I became enraged and threw my new controller at the TV (I know stupid). I left the event & hope that guy spends (40 deaths x 180 sc) at least 7k on extractions & buys me a new controller! such a wasted opportunity (if he waited 2 more minutes I could have filled the room with people from my friends list - all great players btw) instead everyone gets a green gun - yaaaa