New grenade system is lame as hell

[Valethar]

Don't we all... But they don't listen.

If you replaced 'listen' with 'care', you'd be 100% correct.

Sadly this was an affliction they developed during Alpha and never managed to cure themselves of. I haven't played since mid summer, yet coming back today, I see some of the same bugs we encountered during the Alpha test that still haven't been addressed, yet somehow they thought expending resources on 'fixing' grenades was a logical development decision.

There are numerous issues they should have been addressing in order to improve the game. Grenades apparently were more important than fixing the chat system, fixing the nearly non-existent economy (They went backwards on that one), correcting bugs with random spawns that have persisted since Alpha, etc...

[BJWyler]

I hate the new grenade system too (is there one person anywhere that likes it?)

I do. I actually find myself throwing a crapton more grenades now than when I did before. I basically have an unlimited supply at this point because of the claims window and the up in drops, which is enhanced by the shorter cool down time. The only issue I have is that, like others, I have a long list of claim items for 'nades that I don't usually use, but can't get rid of because I have orange versions of those grenades I just can't part with.

The system can certainly use some tweaking in order to limit the amount of useless stuff in claims, but otherwise, I have found the change more preferable than the previous system.

People should not want to salvage grenades, that is not what they are in the game for, and if that is what people have come to begin doing, then the system is flawed in some way.

90% of loot drops in any game is "vendor trash". That is SOP for the RPG - be it MMO or not. The only reason I am salvaging more grenades now than before is because of they upped the drop rate on 'nades. Beforehand, I would just salvage any that were not better than the current cluster one I was using. Now, I am actually using more of the different types and don't have to waste time Min/Maxing every drop just to see if it is better than the 'nade I currently have.

[Valethar]

90% of loot drops in any game is "vendor trash". That is SOP for the RPG - be it MMO or not.

Normally vendor trash would be used by the players to fund upgrades, etc.. Sadly the Defiance team doesn't understand this concept, or what a game economy is. You'd think they'd never worked on an MMO before.