So, I apparently missed all the discussion of Twitch Live Streams on Fridays?

[Etaew]

Hide UI

In the live client can you not press F9? No? Lame. So we'll probably turn that on. I've been using the GM client for so long I hadn't realised that you can't just get rid of it.

This actually angered me a little, people have been asking it for a while and they had a feature for it that we could use and thought we had it but didn't turn it on...

[Arsenic_Touch]

What angers me is when they answer questions incorrectly or avoid answering them completely.

Like I'm watching it right now, they're talking about ammo caches and how you lose the extra ammo. They purposely changed it so you wouldn't lose the ammo and here trick is making it sound like the current way is intentional.

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...25-Patch-Notes
It was fixed here -

- Fixed a bug where you would lose ammo swapping weapons in the current loadout when the ammo pool was full.

Now it's broke again, hence the question on the live stream and Trick acted like it's intentional.

[crasher]

[I shoehorned this into Arsenic_Touch's most excellent thread:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...be-addressed.]

I appreciate The Devs and the CMs being in/on the Live Stream on 01-10-14 in spite of the plague.

We all know that life goes on, but life doesn't usually involve having a camera in your face while you're trying not to hack up a furball or staunch a runny nose with style, grace and aplomb.

This actually angered me a little, people have been asking it for a while and they had a feature for it that we could use and thought we had it but didn't turn it on...

It was clearly one more indication of unfamiliarity with the game we play.

And it's an indication of them not playing the game.

And just so that we're clear: the GM version isn't "The Game".
If they don't see what we see, they're not playing 'OUR' game. So naturally they can't fix OUR problems. They're playing a version that they don't have OUR problems on and so few (any?) of THEM are putting so few hours on OUR version.
Yes, I know Trick has been known to duel on occasion, but everyone knows that when he's dueling he's focused on dueling, and not 'creating'. Trick isn't the guy who's supposed to be playing the game to see if it works, and if he's the QC dept too, we have issues.


And it's not the GM version that they release anyway, so that conversion to our dumbed down player version is another avenue for glitches and bugs to be re-introduced, which is probably how/when patched fixes get broken again.


By the time WE'RE putting enough hours on to see the problems and point them out, they will have moved on to some other aspect and nobody will be familiar with the problems we're pointing out, again.

I've been harping on that ammo question for a while, in some bug reports and on the forums, and they not only don't address it, they weren't even familiar with the issue.

We're talking to ourselves, here, guys.

• The ammo issues (ammo up, go into a Break, port to a different zone, change load-outs, etc, and have to ammo up AGAIN when you finish the motion). Where does the ammo go, and how can The Devs enter combat with reduced ammo and NEVER even realize it? AND it was FIXED in patch 1.025. They had to BREAK it again in patch 1.027 or patch 1.101 to get it here again.
• The grenade stacks in the overflow.
• The spontaneous vehicle despawns.
• And the 'Vehicle appears BEHIND me inside the compound at Overpass, facing the wrong way, after I've run outside to a clear spot to go to a siege or Ark-Fall/Break', or the 'Vehicle appears BEHIND me on the bridge at The Lighthouse, facing the wrong way, after I've run off it to a clear spot to go to a siege or Ark-Fall/Break', bug is still alive. jekkin' swell, that one's always good for a laugh. Just spawn the thing in front of me, I'll sort out the rest.
• The grub appearing outside the hive.
• The hive floating 50 feet in the air.
• The Monolith disappearing and then floating 25-30 feet in the air.
• The Scrapper progen disappearing while traveling between towers, or the progen walking along the ground between towers.
• The bottom heat-sink on the scrapper towers at the final having no health bar.
• I love the way the red caret follows bugs while underground, ... afflicted in the green smoke... badguys in the dark and behind walls. It so helpfully negates all of the stealth they use, and all of the guesswork on my part... The game is so much more fun with all that pesky 'challenge' crap out of the way. The only thing the devs could add to make it easier is an AimBot, and then I could go read some other forum while the game wins itself for me. Maybe, if we're lucky they intend to add one to the cash shop soon... (/sarcasm)
• Mismatched stats on weapons, WTF? Moded a BMG lately, and compared before/after stats?
• Weapons and mods spontaneously disappearing from inventory.
• Weapons mods not having a 'viewable syn' while mounted. Sure, we now have the mod bonus's lite up on individual mounting. When you have 3 lit up and 4 mods mounted - which one do you replace?
• NOT having the weapons in inventory favorited by default when the system is introduced, and then having a 'nuke all' button with nothing *like IT BEING RED* to visually set it off as being clearly a 'don't do this' option.
• Grenades self-favorite when you pick them up.
• Shields and other items self-unfavorite on occasion.
• Inventory self-resorts whenever it feels like.
• Overflow has a randomness to the sort order.
• SB targetting typo.
• Weapons not appearing in game at all. For reals-ies. Theoretical one-in-a-million = 0.
• Going after the '5000 Bolt Action Sniper Kills pursuit, or the '500 Kills while cloaked' pursuit, The server/game engine loses count and credits the player with approximately 15 % fewer kills than are actually scored.
• Cerberus driving pursuit, anyone? How are your levels working out? Tracking accurately? Oh, and most people who level notice that they don't get the EGO points for each level of the Cerb they get.
• Server desynching and letting you rejoin a different instance than the one you got booted from.
• Disconnects for our PS3 and XboX brothers and sisters.
• Disconnecting just before the end of Ark-Events.
• Not being able to communicate inside a Break. (Few people know how to use 'Team', audio is problematic, and they never really got on the ball with 'Private Chat. Chat has been bollixed for so long that few people will bother puzzling out any single small aspect fixes TRION shoehorns into the big fiasco).
• Not being able to go into the same break as the one that the rest of your clan is in. In fact, having your clan BECOME spread out over a number of Breaks already in progress.
• Putting down batteries, and ending up in a Break that is almost over.
• Putting down batteries and getting kicked out of an instance all together, and then coming back on a different shard.
• Not being able to use a chat system, and then being made aware that the chat fix is so low on the priority scale that it's over *4* months* busted.
• Still happy with that whole 'Spam the broken chat with woot announcements of tens of people I dont know leveling pistols to '2', but no way letting a player know who rezzed them in a firefight'.... Good Call. Thumbs up on that one.
• The specials are usually just the same old generic full priced mods that are frequently duplicated on several vendors at the same time. And why are pistol mods always a special on the sniper vendor (as one example of ALL the rest of the vendor special combinations)?
• Inventory compare is clearly not being used by The Devs, or they'd know just how bollixed it is, I dunno, maybe you have to be a game player to understand?
• Menu choice options in 'Settings/Gameplay' keep randomly resetting themselves. Not restricted to resetting on log-in. It happens during gameplay as well
• And The Devs seem to enjoys the bright BMG/Rebounder/Cold-Fire weapon's ability to blind everyone around them, (Spanner-Protector, and the inability of the 'Helped Player' to see shtako while being 'helped', and the 'Helping Player's ability to unknowingly inflict such a handicap) else they wouldn't be so reluctant to even recognize it as an issue much less fix it.
• Small things that have been fixed in patches and then broken again, and stay broken forever.
• Big things that are broken, and never even get addressed in any way.
• Issues that get discussed repeatedly in the forum, and then are met with a surprised reaction on live streams.
• PvP issues with weapons/perks/queues still not remotely close to being solved without blowing up the whole game.

We're talking to ourselves.

Just a couple (With cites) from another list I was working on, some are repeats:

Patch 1.020 - Buckshot (Stay on Target) 05-21-2013 06:16 PM:
PLAYER CHARACTER
● Nano effects that kill your character should now be cleared after extracting. [Broken].
● Fixed cameras while incapacitated so that the camera won’t clip through the character if the player looks up. [Broken].

Patch 1.022 - Patch Notes 06-18-2013 12:52 PM:
- Fixed a periodic issue where a Scapper Arkfall Armature could be placed before its base preventing the lowest heat sink from properly showing.
Bottom heat sink on Scrapper towers still have no health bar.

Patch 1.025 - Patch Notes 07-23-2013 08:14 PM
- Fixed a bug where you would lose ammo swapping weapons in the current loadout when the ammo pool was full. (Mentioned above in #1)
- Players are no longer spammed with their most recent EGO power level up and things they unlocked when logging into the game or changing servers into PvP, etc
[ I get spammed the same old crap every time I log-in, leave an Ark-Event, or change zones.]
- Fortunately, you will no longer be spammed with “You are now bound to the Bathhouse” when near certain extraction points.
[Driven passed the Golden Gate Bridge, lately?]
- Emergencies: Landmine Rescue: Updated landmine arming range to be a bit farther away. This will let you approach them to disarm them without them just blowing up in your face (which was rather unfair).
[The still blow up in your face if you try to disarm them.]

[N1ghtShadow]

^ where's the "like" button at? The preceding post deserves it.

One other glitch that's been bugging me for a looooooong while: Dark Matter Bullwarks were the first to spontaneously shift from one location to another for no reason at all. It usually happens only in ArkBreaks and Arkfalls, but I've seen it happen once or twice in emergencies, too. Now ALL Dark Matter NPC's do it. I'll be aiming at one of those bastards one second, ready to fire, and suddenly -poof!- he's 30 meters somewhere else. Where's MY Teleportation EGO power???

Am I the only one who's severely annoyed by this?

[Bonehead]

^ where's the "like" button at? The preceding post deserves it.

One other glitch that's been bugging me for a looooooong while: Dark Matter Bullwarks were the first to spontaneously shift from one location to another for no reason at all. It usually happens only in ArkBreaks and Arkfalls, but I've seen it happen once or twice in emergencies, too. Now ALL Dark Matter NPC's do it. I'll be aiming at one of those bastards one second, ready to fire, and suddenly -poof!- he's 30 meters somewhere else. Where's MY Teleportation EGO power???

Am I the only one who's severely annoyed by this?

You're in good company brother.

[Etaew]

Vehicle timer

It is coming back, it was omitted by accident.

I really hate hearing this kind of thing.

Anyway full transcript is up: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=146

[rebtattoo]

[*]Issues that get discussed repeatedly in the forum, and then are met with a surprised reaction on live streams.

We're talking to ourselves.

Ready for my next infraction...This statement alone convinces me that the information that is being said is passed along by a certain someone, is pure pow schtako.

How can the lead developer of the game not be aware of any of the issues in the game if he is being given the info?

I have completely lost faith in the communications, or lack thereof, within the dev team.

Meh

[Bonehead]

I've said it before and I don't much care for repeating myself but this forum is not for us to bring any meaningful contribution to the game. It is for us to talk among ourselves. However the dev team may get it's information about the state of the game, this aint it. If it were it would at least look that way a little bit but it NEVER has. Look at what Trion does. That is how they will behave in the future.
The last live stream was just another in a long line of streams that make it look like they have NO CLUE how this game really plays.
I am down to one or two sentence posts consisting of basic info for the noobs or just silliness because I have lost the desire to keep repeating myself over and over to NO AVAIL. If there was any body listening to us they wouldn't be constantly surprised about all the stuff we have been saying for 10 months.They moderate this forum but that's about it.

EDIT;

Thank you for those who have been so doggedly persistent in attempting to hold Trion accountable to the players. I have great admiration and gratitude for that effort.

[rebtattoo]

I've said it before and I don't much care for repeating myself but this forum is not for us to bring any meaningful contribution to the game. It is for us to talk among ourselves. However the dev team may get it's information about the state of the game, this aint it. If it were it would at least look that way a little bit but it NEVER has. Look at what Trion does. That is how they will behave in the future.
The last live stream was just another in a long line of streams that make it look like they have NO CLUE how this game really plays.
I am down to one or two sentence posts consisting of basic info for the noobs or just silliness because I have lost the desire to keep repeating myself over and over to NO AVAIL. If there was any body listening to us they wouldn't be constantly surprised about all the stuff we have been saying for 10 months.They moderate this forum but that's about it.

EDIT;

Thank you for those who have been so doggedly persistent in attempting to hold Trion accountable to the players. I have great admiration and gratitude for that effort.

And the moderation seems to be only looking for flagged words or string of letters and then acting by closing the thread and giving infractions.

I really appreciate the efforts also. A few do take long strides to help this game. With this last stream though, I fear these are wasted efforts falling on deaf, or rather, uncaring ears.

just once, I'd like to hear Trick acknowledge that he had been given information that was relayed through the forum. That is were accountability can then be assigned.

Not that it matters in the end anyway. We will always hear the same "soon, it's being worked on."

[VanBuren]

Pfft! If I can come in to work with a 102-104 fever every day for the entire week you can manage some sniffles!

Congrats. You're a manly man.