Alien language in videos

[Leeci]

I think the red writing may be an arkfall code. It is six characters and stands out from the rest of the sign. Additionally, because the language is an abugida the fact there are six distinct characters leads me to further believe it's an arkfall code. Six characters that appear to translate as 2 _ R L _ _. I'm not sure about the L but I'm pretty positive the R is accurate when looking at the picture of the Grant Bowler's production chair (Post #18).

edit: After watching the video 'Defiance - Presentation on creating alien languages' I believe the last character to be either F or I based on the translation of the word 'defiance', more specifically the sound "fie", at 10:35. It appears F and I have been joined into a single character so I can't tell which one is on the sign.

The letters A and N always appear to be drawn together, in both languages. Looking at posts #17 and #18 and comparing the words "Grant" and "Defiance" they have the same figure that corresponds to "AN". Also, assuming the word "defiance" in the picture in post 18 is written in Castithan and Irathient letters you can see that the letters "an" are drawn together and appear to correspond to what they would look like separately. More or less.

All just assumptions, speculation at best, and not terribly helpful for what most people are working on. But that is what I have come up with.

edit: in hindsight I don't believe "L" is not the proper translation for that character on the sign.

[Tyren3402]

I think the red writing may be an arkfall code. It is six characters and stands out from the rest of the sign. Additionally, because the language is an abugida the fact there are six distinct characters leads me to further believe it's an arkfall code. Six characters that appear to translate as 2 _ R L _ _. I'm not sure about the L but I'm pretty positive the R is accurate when looking at the picture of the Grant Bowler's production chair (Post #18).

edit: After watching the video 'Defiance - Presentation on creating alien languages' I believe the last character to be either F or I based on the translation of the word 'defiance', more specifically the sound "fie", at 10:35. It appears F and I have been joined into a single character so I can't tell which one is on the sign.

The letters A and N always appear to be drawn together, in both languages. Looking at posts #17 and #18 and comparing the words "Grant" and "Defiance" they have the same figure that corresponds to "AN". Also, assuming the word "defiance" in the picture in post 18 is written in Castithan and Irathient letters you can see that the letters "an" are drawn together and appear to correspond to what they would look like separately. More or less.

All just assumptions, speculation at best, and not terribly helpful for what most people are working on. But that is what I have come up with.

edit: in hindsight I don't believe "L" is not the proper translation for that character on the sign.

Has anyone made any progress on the red letters in the photo above. Or is there a translator being put together?

[Smitch]

Has anyone made any progress on the red letters in the photo above. Or is there a translator being put together?

I've been working on a GIMP layered Indojisen glyph, where you can show/hide layers to create any of the known glyphs. After that I was planning on sinking myself into Castithan. >.<

[Dead_Phoenix]

you may be slightly over looking at image. only reason i say that is every code we have had has been digitally entered onto the picture. that is a live picture of a bilboard in the tv show. they wouldnt put an ark code there, for a start that piece of scenery has would of been made months ago. if not longer, well before they started any of this.

not saying dont look, just i wouldnt spend much time on it.

[Iluvatar]

Okay so from what I can see, Indo consists of 4 types of letters.
Obviously numbers (which should be working by a 7-digit algorithm, except the 35 example doesn't fit my current model).
Vowels, which except from E are the "rockets" which means pure vowel, and they are governed by whatever is in the center. Composed of a "string" and/or "bubbles".
Consonants, which are governed by the exterior hex, and composes of lines "bubbles" and "spikes" as well as a top or bottom feature or both.
All of these are relatively comparable to our alphabetic system and are used in many (probably human) translations.
However, a fourth and most likely what the Indogen would use among themselves, character exists, which is basically a mix of a consonant exterior and a vowel interior. So far I've only found them in the consonant-vowel order (e.g. ba, pa, me) and not reversed (e.g. ab, ap, em) but it is not unlikely that this could also exist. Rather, I think they simply add a consonant character after the vowel or "sound" character if needed.

Anyway, I forgot who linked it but I think the work on https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_pk...Ymc/edit?pli=1 goes great lengths to show what I mean. Note that I disagree with the numerals above 7 and haven't found any double vowels (more likely they have additional individual vowels for ê, á, ü etc.

Edit: Dead_Phoenix
Although I agree that it's unlikely we'll find codes there, I think it's good if we decipher as many messages as possible so we can adapt and adjust our understanding of the written languages which in turn will help us decipher future codes in e.g. indo

[hatemail]

I been referencing this pic a lot

[Dead_Phoenix]

Edit: Dead_Phoenix
Although I agree that it's unlikely we'll find codes there, I think it's good if we decipher as many messages as possible so we can adapt and adjust our understanding of the written languages which in turn will help us decipher future codes in e.g. indo

fair point!

[Dead_Phoenix]

I been referencing this pic a lot

atm im using this for indo https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_pk...Ymc/edit?pli=1

and this for irathi http://irathient.cwahi.net/translato...lang=irathient

[Tyren3402]

atm im using this for indo https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_pk...Ymc/edit?pli=1

and this for irathi http://irathient.cwahi.net/translato...lang=irathient

Nothing is showing for your Indo link? When you posted that link I got excited! But sadly its clear

[Iluvatar]

atm im using this for indo https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_pk...Ymc/edit?pli=1

and this for irathi http://irathient.cwahi.net/translato...lang=irathient

I've been using the indo pdf too, as base, but a VBI translation as force majeure, since the pdf have too many inconsistencies

I actally had a bit of trouble translating them today, as what I had previously made my mind up about spikes and bubbles, would not fit into here :/
Another problem is that the characters seem to change properties from source to source.

Attachment 229
(6)(3)(2)(1)(E)(R/Q) where I can't in fact find the last consonant. It could be an R or Q written wrong. It might also be a J since I have no examples of that.

Attachment 230
This one turned out even worse
(Æ[1])(S)(N[2])(4)(2)(Æ[1])(R)(Æ[1])
(#1 a mix of ae/ea thus => Æ) (#2 guessing a lot on this one lol)

Attachment 231
Basically turned this one out on basis of the 2 previous.
(I)(N)(L)(Æ)(S)(3)(6)(Æ)(2)(6)(Æ)

I used this tool
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_pk...Ymc/edit?pli=1
As well as the VBI translations below
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