I am sure it cost money too, probably like onlive's service.Originally Posted by drackiller
I am not sure trion or any game company would have to do anything. This is sony's service and is like playing PS3 remotely. Sony hosts the game and PS3 servers and they already sell this game as a digital download. However it is all just speculation at this point unless someone has access to the beta.
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It's in a digital space, true, but it would take some work to get it ready for cloud streaming. You'd need to make sure the game is optimized to work with the always-on Cloud servers, which would need to work with Trion's own servers which would manage the game's population.
As a matter of fact, Playstation Now has yet to cover whether multiplayer will be included in the streamed titles. Will we be able to play Mass Effect 3 online with friends? Or will we be stuck with the offline modes?
Add to that the legal wrinkles involved with adding the game to Gaikai (I can't imagine it would be a no-nonsense thing, considering the aforementioned server things, combined with the fact that the game is being played on a rival console as well as PC.)
I suppose you could say there's no cause like a lost cause.
Think of it more like Remote Desktop. I could technically play this game with a program that could remotely login and use my desktop top with. I wouldn't have to contact Trion at all and they wouldn't be involved if I wanted to do that. On the surface that's all that it looks like Sony is allowing you to do would be to remotely control a PS3 they host that has a game library of whatever you paid for.
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It's different if you're using your computer to play the game through another one. But on such a large scale, with the Cloud needing to be involved, and an actual company (Sony in this case) being involved in the hosting, there will inevitably be issues and red tape that need to be sorted out. I'm not saying it's not possible (it most certainly is) but for right now, this would be a question of whether Trion wants to devote resources to getting Defiance on Gaikai, or doing something else with the game. Again, I'm not saying it would be difficult, or impossible. I'm saying it would require some effort, because these things always do, and that inevitably means Trion needed to decide whether the effort is worth it. With the way Defiance's development is progressing currently, I'm not sure it's a time/resource investment they'd make off-hand.
I suppose you could say there's no cause like a lost cause.
The effort is all Sony's, and what they are doing now with the beta. No where does Trion have to be involved.
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That's simply untrue. Trion will need to make sure their game is optimized and compatible with the Gaikai servers. They'll need to make sure the streaming doesn't put any undue stress on Defiance's own servers (which is a real possibility.) They'll need to navigate legal brickwork, especially considering how multi-platform Defiance is, in order to ensure there's no legal reason why they can't add the game to the Gaikai servers. There's also the issue of money, and whether or not Trion will be asked to pay for Defiance to be streamed through Gaikai. If they are, that is certainly a reason to not do it.
I suppose you could say there's no cause like a lost cause.
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No they don't at all and that's the point. This is Sony's service to allow you to allow you to play PS3 games in devices like the Ps4 and vita. Licensing could be an issue but that is separate. This would be no different then if all of a sudden thousands of more people decided to buy and play the game on the PS3 currently. Sony doesn't have to ask if it's ok to Trion.
Sony has the sole responsibility to make sure when you remotely play games on their service it runs smooth. It really isn't different then playing this on PS3 currently other then you aren't sitting in front of your PS3.
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This is extremely different from streaming from your PS3 to some other device. In your case, you own the PS3, and the device you're streaming to, and you own the game you're streaming. The stream is going from you to you, with no involvement in an outside party. There's no connecting to an outside source. No subscription fee. No downloading and uploading beyond your own machines and your own internet connection.
For Playstation Now, you're directly involved with Gaikai, which is an online Cloud service owned by Sony. Instead of getting the game directly from your own home, you're getting it from Cloud Servers, which are subject to fits of instability, and owned/controlled by someone who is not you. There is every reason to believe these online Cloud servers, which are supposed to be hosting hundreds, possibly thousands of games, may fail, or stutter under the weight of all the people using them, at least initially. For an MMO developer like Trion, who already has to worry about their own servers being finicky, worrying about Gaikai's servers could be more than they want/need to handle. In addition to this, there's every possibility that Defiance, being an MMO, could take up too much space on Gaikai's cloud as it is. The Cloud may require that Defiance be streamlined or optimized for its servers, which could take additional development and implementation that Trion may not want to spend time on.
In addition to this, Sony has every responsibility to ask Trion if they can stream Defiance via Playstation Now. To not ask them would amount to outright theft, considering Sony is probably going to be asking for some sort of payment in order to use Playstation Now. Making money off of that payment without consulting Trion about using their game would be extremely illegal. Further, you're forgetting one crucial component of Playstation Now: It streams games the users do not need to own. I've already mentioned that Sony will probably ask for some kind of subscription to use the service: this will likely cover upkeep, and the cost of streaming games to users who do not own them. This is the gaming equivalent of Netflix. If Sony did not ask Trion if they could stream Defiance to people who do not own it, and then proceed to make money off of doing so, Trion would be understandably irate.
The amount of effort it would take Trion to make Defiance work with Playstation Now is not nothing. It would not be an insurmountable investment, but as I've already pointed out, it's a matter of opportunity costs and investment research. Would Trion be better served spending time on Playstation Now? Or would they be better off working on Defiance's other aspects? The only people who can answer that 100% are Trion themselves.
I suppose you could say there's no cause like a lost cause.
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