So You've Wiped Out Shield Progression...Wow, Why? Because Grenades?

[Overtkill21]

Ok so now you've gone and wiped out Shield progression entirely?

You've made it so all Orange shields of a type share a common Cap, Delay, and Recharge Percentage.

In doing this you have removed ALL elements of choice in shields.

You have undone what was actually a simple, elegant system.

Here let me explain, since you all obviously do not understand what your predecessors programmed:

Let me use Resparks as an Example...

A Respark typically has 40% Recharge and a 3 second delay.

A benefit of HP Regen, Reload, Melee, etc. can be added to this as can a nano resistance - but not a zero cost - we'll get to that.

The Capacity of the Shield would go up based on EGO.

So HP Regen Resparks (assuming identical EGO) worked like this:

A 0% HP Regen Shield* would have a 2.4 Second Delay + No Nano Resistance
A 25% HP Regen Shield would have a 2.7 Second delay + Nano Resistance
A 50% HP Regen Shield would have a 3 Second delay + Nano Resistance
A 100% HP Regen Shield would have a 3 Second delay + No Nano Resistance

*(Using the V as an example in this progression)

So there's a solid choice - CHOOSE your shield and with it comes benefits and detriments to performance.

So now you've made it so that:

ALL Orange Resparks have a 2.4 Delay

What does this do to progression?

Well now the choice between HP Regen Resparks becomes:

A 0% HP Regen Shield would have a 2.4 Second delay + No Nano Resistance
A 25% HP Regen Shield would have a 2.4 Second delay + Nano Resistance
A 50% HP Regen Shield would have a 2.4 Second delay + Nano Resistance
A 100% HP Regen Shield would have a 2.4 Second delay + No Nano Resistance

Making the choice Much, Much, easier and making the "lesser" Regen shields into garbage.

But it gets better...by choosing the LOWEST delay for ALL Orange Resparks you have also made the Respark V completely 100% Useless as it gets no benefit over other ANY Orange Resparks in its EGO.

Oh and if you think only Resparks got this treatment...LOL....nope - ALL shields have had this happen - ALL Orange Rebels now have 2.4 Second Delay, ALL Orange Hurricanes now have a 90% recharge - they've chosen one stat from each class of shield and made it into the Orange Stat...without regard for the way the game was designed. This is just too much.

So Bravo once again Trion, for 100% Not Understanding this game.

[thejx4]

Two threads are not better than one.

[ConcreteSnake]

Two threads are not better than one.

this one is better.

I assume what happens is that when "glitch" happened with the shields this was their fix.

[Elastik Spastik]

Reading these threads just makes me want to not play defiance at all

[Overtkill21]

Two threads are not better than one.

One thread was about a specific shield - since this affects ALL shields - this thread is appropriate.

[dramaQkarri]

Reading these threads just makes me want to not play defiance at all

ditto. at least not for a couple weeks.

[N3gativeCr33p]

Reading these threads just makes me want to not play defiance at all

I was just thinking the same thing myself... and I know this much for sure, playing today is totally out of the question.

[Elastik Spastik]

I was just thinking the same thing myself... and I know this much for sure, playing today is totally out of the question.

To be honest im done with this game unless they change it to how it used to be but they make these changes to try and maximize profit when in reality they have killed it and will make hardly anything. They would have made more if they had listened to the players because we would still be here and still be playing. The player base are the ultimate game testers but seems the big wigs know better. Im completely frustrated with what could have been a game in a league of its own, but instead is just another washed money making scheme with no regard to its customers and its failed. I may check back in a few months if the servers havent died by then but yeah im pretty much ran out of patience. Plus i now have new bigger and better games to use my game money on. I wish defiance could have been part of it but alas it is not to be. In my opinion I think they just want this to die a painful death and be done with it.

It really wouldnt surprise me if they dont do a season 2 pass. How many people are actuially going to buy it now.

[N3gativeCr33p]

To be honest im done with this game unless they change it to how it used to be but they make these changes to try and maximize profit when in reality they have killed it and will make hardly anything. They would have made more if they had listened to the players because we would still be here and still be playing. The player base are the ultimate game testers but seems the big wigs know better. Im completely frustrated with what could have been a game in a league of its own, but instead is just another washed money making scheme with no regard to its customers and its failed. I may check back in a few months if the servers havent died by then but yeah im pretty much ran out of patience. Plus i now have new bigger and better games to use my game money on. I wish defiance could have been part of it but alas it is not to be. In my opinion I think they just want this to die a painful death and be done with it.

It really wouldnt surprise me if they dont do a season 2 pass. How many people are actuially going to buy it now.

Well, hey... if you ever get into console gaming, look me up. I could always use an Elastik Spastik on my friends list...

[Elastik Spastik]

Well, hey... if you ever get into console gaming, look me up.

i was until mid last year, then converted to pc and always will be. I even bought this game twice, once for xbox when it came out then for pc when i converted. I obviously didnt realise what a shambles it would turn into. I'll be back from time to time whenever i can be bothered to play defiance, and thats a big if.