Every enemy is a grind...

[Tsort]

Oh. Bio isn't green after all.

[bigguy]

I agree with Tsort the noobs arent going to have enough time to figure out what to do and wont stick around long enough to figure it out.

When i was new in the game last april it took a while to find out what a nano was and what it did and right now that info is very important . Even now when i have very extensive experience i spent several hours last night experimenting with the best nanos for different mobs , and im not done yet. The noobs arent going to be able to do that and they wont have the previous knowledge i have from looking at the alpha threads. I feel bad for the noobs.

[Copperpot]

Yeah us low egos will be relegated to being wussy healer boys. And noone wants to be that guy.

[Quebra Regra]

Well this patch change is just stupid, just done the quest on the farm, the one where you go get the guy for the lawkeeper and he runs around and gathers stuff for you and then a matron and tons of other ambush you at the end. Know the one i mean ??

Well 1 and half hours to kill a matron, i used nade launchers, cold fire weps, sniper rifle, assault rifles, smgs, cluster launchers, if i had it in my inv i pulled it out and used it. I might aswell have been throwing tins of baked beans at it for the damage i was doing. I even pulled my car out at one point and ram raided it (kid you not, it made the biggest dint). Now my damage in essence is no different to before on my new char but the health the mob had and the mitigation and the pure number of adds spawning was insane.

And when i say an hour an half, i dont mean the part before where you kill all the nests then get the guy and patrol around with him, i mean simply the matron stage at the end.

It doesnt feel fun anymore, it feels like an asian grinder.

I don't know you, but I salute your post for it's authenticity!

"this patch change is just stupid"... That cannot be overstated.

[rebtattoo]

I'm hesitant to disagree...I'll explain.

While in the open world the scaling is a bit on the ridiculous side and definitely needs looking into. i did Parrabas solo in about the same time it normally took. Did it again with some clan and a random 5k barney, and it took twice as long with 1/2 the reward.

I'm happy with parts of the patch. Expert Co-ops are a ****in' blast! And, if you're new to the game, you shouldn't attempt them.