First Impressions of DLC 5

[BJWyler]

If you are a low ego and your there first the enemies will be more scaled to you. I'm 4950 and went to friend that was 1600 and the enemies stayed scaled to him for the most part. Your acting like you honestly havent even played much of the New dlc and you hated it before it was even released. If you honestly tried it for more than 10 minutes you would know this already. The scaling system works well fir lower ego players, if anything it makes the game harder if your higher ego. I was playing in a group of 3 guys over 5200 and I was 4900 on expert coop and I was holding my own just fine.

I have the benefit of playing with both low EGO and "max" EGO characters. Neither experience was enjoyable. The scaling system does not work fine (depending on how many players are around), and enemies will scale regardless of whether a high EGO character is actually participating or not (such as driving by). There are certain instances where there really isn't an issue with difficulty. However, there are many more where it is an issue. Again, many of us are long time casual players who played the game for what it was. We enjoyed the challenge it offered. We didn't ask for more. We didn't want more. It was because of the QQing of the players who didn't play the game for what it was that we now have had challenge handed to us in an enema.

Now, if Trion wanted to add a level of difficulty for those types of players, I have no problem with that, so long as my gameplay experience is unaffected. Guild Wars managed that with their Hard Mode. Other games manage that with their higher tiers of difficulty for Raids and other content. The difference is, that extra level of difficulty is completely optional. We have no such option to continue to play this game at the level it was previously. Therefore, some of us simply choose to find another game that better suits our needs and abilities - something that perhaps other gamers should learn from.

soaking a mutant shotgunner for 5 minutes with bullets without a kill is BORING AS HELL, imbalanced as heck, and ridiculous!

Was it smoke a crack rock day at TRION when this system was thought up?

I don't so much mind the bullet sponge in as far as now enemies actually live long enough to appear on my computer screen before getting killed in the zerg events like Arkfalls and Sieges. However, you are correct in the fact that pumping clip after clip into these enemies to little or no effect is frustrating. Unfortunately, it is a catch 22 situation. The bigger issue is the involuntary increase in difficulty the scaling system brings. Going back to that minor arkbreak I have mentioned before - it is simply rediculous to go into such an instance with a full complement of players and just be continually insta-killed by the mobs when all of us are doing very little damage in return. Again, that was almost identical to the experience I get when soloing the arkbreak with all the Elite Bombers in them. At least with the solo arkbreaks there was actually a chance of beating that challenge in a reasonable manner.

[jimpugh]

Dev's at Trion do not nerf 1.50.......fix things that need fixing BUGS etc.

You Guys Hit A home run......

Making people THINK and work for Victory is THE ULTIMATE VICTROY and agony of defeat....

As far as I know.... if your NOT an expert... you had a choice... to play 3 versions ...of the new expert co-op's

Expert, Little whine ,Full Whine.....

As for me and my friends we love the new "Hot Spicy Chicken"

Thank You and please do not listen to the NerfaBillies ....

I have always liked poop shoes leave the Nanos ALONE.....nit.. nit... nit.....laughed my butt off at the 5 million scrip guns that have to be revamped..

Again thank You and yes we have bigger fish to fry .....DC'S ...tweaks ...etc....But way ahead of the curve and love the new Hulkers... sexy Black out fits .....now if you could find a Huge Harley for him to ride with guns and missiles hanging OFF that would be SPECTAULAR or fricking AWESOME....

PanheadJIM
SOME WHERE IN DEFIANCE

[N3gativeCr33p]

Was it smoke a crack rock day at TRION when this system was thought up?

LOL!

[Shadow Andreas]

why between stages in siege the enemies are wiped? They should stay,the time is'nt enough to kill the hulker in most cases.

Nicc0, it is long enough....but only the points allowed in the round for 1 to die. If it isn't one of the ones that you are at....it is one of the ones at another point in the siege. They do go down fast when a large group concentrates fire and is using bios to break the armor.

[CRIXDA]

Dude, Q-Gun!
Are You honestly not lovin' this?



CCRRRRRRAAAZZZZZZYYYYYYYY!!!!!

[Storm58]

Dev's at Trion do not nerf 1.50.......fix things that need fixing BUGS etc.

You Guys Hit A home run......

Making people THINK and work for Victory is THE ULTIMATE VICTROY and agony of defeat....

As far as I know.... if your NOT an expert... you had a choice... to play 3 versions ...of the new expert co-op's

Expert, Little whine ,Full Whine.....

As for me and my friends we love the new "Hot Spicy Chicken"

Thank You and please do not listen to the NerfaBillies ....

I have always liked poop shoes leave the Nanos ALONE.....nit.. nit... nit.....laughed my butt off at the 5 million scrip guns that have to be revamped..

Again thank You and yes we have bigger fish to fry .....DC'S ...tweaks ...etc....But way ahead of the curve and love the new Hulkers... sexy Black out fits .....now if you could find a Huge Harley for him to ride with guns and missiles hanging OFF that would be SPECTAULAR or fricking AWESOME....

PanheadJIM
SOME WHERE IN DEFIANCE

Your posts... they are.............................

In any sense, for the most part, I *think* that I agree with you. I like the changes a lot.

[Nefarious]

Its just so much better.

Went to an Major Ark Fall with only a hand full of guys being there. And it being in the Open world the Raiders were buffed up to Formidable and a threat level 10. (I touched up on my thoughts/fears of such a thing happening before DLC 5 came out with only a few players being match up against unyielding odds).

It was cool that the fight took place outside of the boundaries of the crash site. Usually the fight used to take place right on top of it and players would just shoot the raiders as they came out the doors of their tanks. But since there are many of them which can also kill you then us taking the fight on their claimed turf wasn't in our deck of cards to do.

At one point Volge came out of the Ark. I typed in Area chat "Let the Volge and Raiders kill eachother.". It was funny to see all these Ark Hunters stand on a hill top and just watch. Once we started to see the Volge and Raiders numbers start to thin we all moved in.

[Quebra Regra]

IMHO it sucks the root.

QFT!!!! All the way!

I'm not certain if CRIXDA is off his meds, being sarcastic, etc. He can't really believe that it's not fundamental bork'd?

Shoot at a 6 armour ARK blacklung for 12 minutes, get a white junk drop!?!?!? How about the time and bullets spent on a regular hellbug?!?!?

My advise, don't smoke that stuff kidz, it'll mess ya up.

[N3gativeCr33p]

My advise, don't smoke that stuff kidz, it'll mess ya up.

[dramaQkarri]

I think the OP and some other experienced and informed players are forgetting about everyone else and are swept up in their own enjoyment of the challenge. Which I can totally understand.

There is truth to the idea that up until now this game has been way too easy. However - it's now way too hard, and complicated, and completely different and MOST players are put off by this. MOST players are unhappy with these changes. MOST players do not visit the forums. Opinions on DLC 5 have no middle - it's the most loved AND hated ever. And both sides are right.

The worst part is, when the swoon wears off you tough high level players (yes I'm a 5K too but a total pansy by comparison) are all going to remember the SHAMELESS MONEY GRAB PART! "Oh YEAH, I'm not getting anywhere near enough arkforge to keep levelling my guns! This is going to take months!"

Yeah, find me when the honeymoon is over.