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    When they fix the game instead of adding in more broken and unwanted features then I'll consider buying bits. Until then, no frakking way.

    I'll go one step further. Trion, if you fix the game and make it playable again for my casual gaming friends and family, I'll buy each of them a new outfit from the bit store. Don't fix it and I'll buy them each a months subscription to ESO.

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    BUMP: For exposure

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    BUMP: Guess this is falling on death ears, fear not though, I SHALL NOT stop bumping this until I get a proper explanation as to why this is happening.

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    I bought $50 in bits right b4 sale and couldn't afford to spend $50 again til right after. :'( just like my missing the"freebie" medal when I was in the Marines. I enlisted three months after they stopped giving it out and got out when they started giving it out again. Such is my luck. History really does repeat itself I guess.

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    So Kiwibird went to the team and crunched some numbers and apparantly its because VAT is being added, which they are obligated to pay! UK/FR tax is 20% and GER tax is 19%. This didn't even cross my mind at the time because of the fact that this VAT wasn't being added to the DLC's, silly me =).

    Anyway, would be appreciative if Kiwibird could find out whether there's going to be a bitsale coming up any time soon, then this thread can be put to bed.

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    Any reason to mot offer a sale. Taxes have nothing to do with a sale. They could even just add additional bonus bits rather than adjusting the price. There is no reason they can't do a sale, just one reason why they won't, greed and lack of giving a damn what the players want. Although, I get the feeling they MAY just have a sale soon if player population dwindles enough, doubtful, but possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf View Post
    what I dont/will never understand is why us EU players have to pay almost double what NA players pay for the same amount of bits, wheres the logic in that other than to suck as much cash out of their players as possible?
    The logic in that is economy. You can not directly compare the economy of North America with Europe and do a 1:1 currency mapping and then state we're getting ripped of. In short, $100 is less to people in EU than it is for people in US. That is generally speaking of course, there are people in both nations of different wealth not in line with the average, may it be positively or negatively. And that's not factoring aspects such as taxes, which are dramatically calculated in a different way in most European countries.

    Don't get me wrong, I do find some pricing to EU customers very questionable, but the above is to some degree an explanation why prices in EU are always higher and it's not a simple matter of being ripped of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIS View Post
    There is no reason they can't do a sale, just one reason why they won't, greed and lack of giving a damn what the players want.
    How are you so certain it's a matter of greed and lack of giving a damn ? Do you have insight on what development, marketing and maintenance costs were for Defiance compared to the income and therefor judge it as a case of greed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordresh View Post
    How are you so certain it's a matter of greed and lack of giving a damn ? Do you have insight on what development, marketing and maintenance costs were for Defiance compared to the income and therefor judge it as a case of greed?
    It doesn't cost anything to add bonus bits to the packs, it would not cost them any money. They would most likely make MORE money because people would load up on bits during such an event. Even if they lowered the price instead of adding bits they would still likely make money as more people would be willing to buy bits while on sale. So you tell me why not have a sale? How would a bit sale do anything but HELP them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIS View Post
    It doesn't cost anything to add bonus bits to the packs, it would not cost them any money.
    Again, how are you so sure that adding bonus Bits does not cost them money? Do you have figures that can prove the relation between the potential of getting people to buy Bits that would not have bought and thus resulting into a potential gain of revenue for Trion Worlds and those that would have bought anyway but now buy less resulting into a potential loss of revenue?

    Are you an accountant with insight on the bookkeeping of Trion Worlds? It's not up to me to tell why they decide to not have a sale, but you honestly believe a company such as Trion Worlds does not have capable people that can decide this sort of actions based on real data and that you know better ? No personal offense, really, I'm just challenging statements grasped out of thin air without any data to back them up.

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