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    Working on it?

    I don't think Trion understands. Players (and former players) are/were not upset that it takes you a while to FIX the DLPs after release, they are upset that you RELEASE them in such a mangled, untested and ultimately sloppy mess of a state to begin with. You release patches and DLPs and they are so far ALWAYS jacked up and it's at least a week or more before they are even playable. Stop selling us crap and then "working on it" while we get disconnected and frustrated trying to play the new stuff. FINISH your work before you present it to the customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIS View Post
    I don't think Trion understands. Players (and former players) are/were not upset that it takes you a while to FIX the DLPs after release, they are upset that you RELEASE them in such a mangled, untested and ultimately sloppy mess of a state to begin with. You release patches and DLPs and they are so far ALWAYS jacked up and it's at least a week or more before they are even playable. Stop selling us crap and then "working on it" while we get disconnected and frustrated trying to play the new stuff. FINISH your work before you present it to the customers.
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    You are just plain disrespectful. What? Do you think Triom just sits there and doesnt do anything? They are trying their best think about how awful the game was when it started now look at it its changed and is so much better. If you dont like this game dont go into the forums and in game and complain about it please just dont play. Itll be the best for you and everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiit View Post
    You are just plain disrespectful. What? Do you think Triom just sits there and doesnt do anything? They are trying their best think about how awful the game was when it started now look at it its changed and is so much better. If you dont like this game dont go into the forums and in game and complain about it please just dont play. Itll be the best for you and everyone else.
    Actually your on the wrong end of this one... Nothing there was DISrespectful (sorry, had to, too easy). In fact, everything he said was right...

    Trion even gives the Alpha Test Servers for about a week or 2, make minor changes, know theres something wrong. They then release the Patch, and immediately Hotfix 1-2 times... Then they read what we hate, and what they missed. Then another 2-3 Patches to fix it to somewhat stable conditions.

    The forums are the place to complain about what you dont like, its how the company gets direct feedback. DIS didnt do it in a way that deserves criticism... Which, is rare these days as people just come here ranting without a good reason behind it. I.E. "This sucks, fix the game /10char"
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    I think Trion understands that they screwed people dont need to keep telling them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiit View Post
    You are just plain disrespectful. What? Do you think Triom just sits there and doesnt do anything? They are trying their best think about how awful the game was when it started now look at it its changed and is so much better. If you dont like this game dont go into the forums and in game and complain about it please just dont play. Itll be the best for you and everyone else.
    I can honestly say if people found the game too easy they should have just quit and went to a game that suited their challenge needs better than Defiance. As for it being better....your one funny dude man...hahahahahaha. Yep please take your own advice and don't complain Smit if you don't like people voicing their concerns just don't visit the forums. Then you don't need to see people voicing their concerns/problems/feedback, and you'll be much happier.

    See what I did there? Not quite so fun when the shoe is on the other foot now is it? Please think before you berate and belittle fellow game players their concerns and feedback is just as valad as yours.
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    You screw up 5 times? You need to hear about it... How will they know how to effectively change the game if we dont voice our displeasures...

    The state of gaming as a whole, is a poor one when it comes to voicing opinions, you must realise this. Let me explain... The people happiest with this game, rarely post saying "Great game, awesome graphics update on the enemies. New attacks make it very challenging and make me feel ive accomplished a great feat."...

    The Negative voices are the loudest because they hate change, think the game has gone quite poorly (in Defiances case), or something like cant take a spanking when theyve "cheated" (see: EL Vendors, or GTA V money glitching). You just have to sift through and find the good bad, vs the bad bad.
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    The following is my rule of thumb when it comes to whether or not to buy a game:

    1) If the forums are full of posts about how bad the game is, then it's a bad game.
    2) If the forums are full of posts about how good the game is, then it's a bad game.
    3) If the forums are full of posts about how great the game "is going to be", then it will be a bad game.
    4) If the forums are bereft of any posts regarding how good or bad the game is, then it's a good game.
    5) If the forums are dead then it will be a sleeper hit and you need to buy stock in the company ASAP!

    I may have sprinkled a smidgen of sarcasm in tiny areas of this post, but I will neither confirm or deny where it may be located.
    I play the PC version of Defiance and I do not PvP, ever. Understand that all of my comments are from that perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevota View Post
    You screw up 5 times? You need to hear about it...
    Indeed, and if it only was 5 times... Defiance should never have been released on the 2th of april 2013. I played the beta, and the final result was almost exactly like the beta. This means it was a great game on the way, but not there yet. It was 'undercooked' and unfinished. They clearly needed 3-6 months more time for proper development to release the game in a good state. But yeah... TV-series, SyFy, contracts. So the game got pushed out. And after that it's a full year of work in progress. And as we all know, working on something in peace is way easier then working on something that is already in use.

    And if that wasnt enough they had to push 5 DLC's out in a year. Because the game was leaps behind the DLC's also got delayed to a point were suddenly 3 DLC's had to be launched within 4 months. So far that made every DLC a disappointment.

    DLC1, Solo-Arena's in a MMO. A Joke, later they fixed it and you could enter with groups. Sadly the score-table didnt got adjusted, so with 4 people you had gold in the first round. We can call this DLC a huge fail.

    DLC2, Arkbreak. Generally a great idea! But if 24 people are entering and 15 get disconnected i consider it broken. And that never got fixed, still suffer DC's when entering the WM. Not too mention the frustation of putting down 40k worth of spikes and see a random fool break the locks early... I call this DLC broken.

    DLC3. Right, you have ninja's that want you to kill mobs at emergencies and the have a Siege at the end? Who thought of that? They took emergencies, that already excisted ingame. They brought back Sieges that were already part of former episode-content and called it 'DLC'. I would call this DLC a cheap rip-off.

    DLC4, Gunslinger. Again a great idea! But OMG, where is the originality? Old PvP- and Coop-maps filled with mobs? C'mon! I like the outfits and weapons from this DLC. Sadly they're part of the VBI-vendor which makes grinding for rep a kick in the nuts. You can only hope to get that weapon or outfit you like. It's the only decent DLC so far.

    DLC5 made the game unplayable. It broke a broken game. Discouraging newcomers cause of the difficulty and frustating vets cause of all those great gear that became useless in one single patch. It's a dirty moneygrab. A vendor that only holds 5.000 EGO weapons? So if you're below 5000 EGO this whole DLC is useless, because you cant use those new weapons and you'll be dead weight to carry for big EGO's in the expert coops. If you're over 5000 EGO, grats! You may buy these weapons and spent money on Arkfolge because within a week your new weapon is useless as you progress on EGO. This DLC is gamebreaking as a whole!

    So... That makes a total of 6 unfinished products that they've thrown on the market. That's a lot of 'Working on it', and i doubt they'll manage to solve it all before they'll be adding more broken stuff ingame. Season 2 on it's way, and a map-expansion in sight. Pretty exciting, if it werent for the fact that i got excited several times and got disappointed an equal amount of times.

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    I still enjoy the game, game play had not changed drastically for me. Finally got to use BMGs and revive, self-revive perks with revive and after revive resistance increase xD
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