what happened around here over the course of ONE DAY????

[Ironhide]

No no no no no.
Don't get me wrong, Arkhunters.
I DO swing a lot, Like Drac just said.
I am a day one hunter and a Daredevil, I play pretty much everyday and I am in love with this game.
I hurt and I feel joy with Defiance.
True, being a total whackjob around here doesn't help when I am super-pissed one day and asking why people are angry the next. No, I understand about the mechanic changes and grenade changes and the seemingly invinceable enemies and my useless guns.
My question was more along the lines of there being more threads this morning of angst that lately, that's all.

Where is our land expansion and kickin' outfits, to echo the query?
Thanks for the understanding, guys. I know that I am a kook.

Well the threads are what happens when you piss off a large majority of your players. People who "WERE" happy with the game never posted cause they didnt have a reason to. Now that you go and change the game that they love , they feel a need to come and post and let "The Company" know that they are displeased. Expect more people to come out of the wood work too.

But yes, they need to add the land expansion already, its half a year over due. The outfits we would have plenty of if they just take the darn things out of the fricking RNG boxes in the store. 10 bucks for the head and outfit IS a good price , but 20 bucks IS NOT!

[dramaQkarri]

Don`t ever change man, i like you this way.

Seconded!

[Bonehead]

Don`t ever change man, i like you this way.

[CRIXDA]

You people are so awesome.
I wish that all of You folks could come and run with Us and the Dawn Patrol.
As a matter of fact - why don't You all teleport to me?
Uhm....don't mind those barrels..... (*snicker*)



"MONKEY BREAD!!!!"

Drama,



He he he

[dramaQkarri]

Hilarious!

yes those are "healing barrels" as I like to tell my friends: "go stand next to that healing barrel a sec, will ya?"

[Quebra Regra]

What happened around here? Well...maybe it was an unasked-for, unneeded, poorly-executed massive change in the basic mechanics of the game? Maybe it was the utterly absurd, immersion-breaking sillyness of it taking an entire 111-round magazine to kill a frelling skitterling (with a very good, upgraded OJ Casti Springer, no less)? Maybe it was the unwanted introduction of yet another currency, complete with an associated weapon "progression" system that amounts to planned obsolescence that you can never keep up with (w/o either insane grinding or big cash outlay for bits)?

Or maybe "D: all of the above and more."

A lot of players, me included, wanted a bit more challenge. Or at least more options to find greater challenge while leaving at least some relatively easy options for casual players (or when we just felt like mindlessly murdering pixels to unwind). We could have gotten that by the simple expedient of making the enemies a lot more dangerous to us (not, not, NOT by making us a lot less dangerous to them...a completely wrong-headed approach), redressing the huge imbalance of power and requiring actual tactics

That's not what we got. We got bullet sponge enemies that require no more skill to beat, just a lot of time and ammunition. We got a scaling system so broken it was turned off on the test server as unusable. We got spawn- and corpse-camping enemies that kill you before you can even hit a movement control when you rez or extract. We got, basically, a game update that's giving Star Wars Galaxies NGE a run for its money as the worst game update ever.

And I think we know what that update did to SWG, don't we?

I can't disagree with much of what you said. Further, I think if some of the vets started over with a beginner character they would see the problem magnified.

That said, sometimes I enjoy the new challenge, but that's not to say it doesn't still require tweaking.

[Manstan]

$10 is far too much for a single outfit. Of course $10 for the possibility of maybe getting some random weapon in a drop or clothes from a lock box is absurd. When I pay for something I expect to get it, not some random possibility of maybe getting it.

I'd pop back in and play some, but is there really any point? It's just grind, grind, grind, and grind some more for very little payout.

[Ironhide]

$10 is far too much for a single outfit. Of course $10 for the possibility of maybe getting some random weapon in a drop or clothes from a lock box is absurd. When I pay for something I expect to get it, not some random possibility of maybe getting it.

I'd pop back in and play some, but is there really any point? It's just grind, grind, grind, and grind some more for very little payout.

Yeah I agree 10 bucks is still expensive, but its better than the 20 bucks they put the 7th Legion outfits in for. If you ask me those should have been free, especially for anyone who had bought the dlc or had it with the season pass. 8 bucks an outfit is reasonalble. Leaves a little extra for maybe a boost or small inventory increase. Yeah I hate to grind or have multiple games I have to grind on. Defiance was my fun Anti-grind game, I could drive around run over s--- (hearing 6 or 7 skitterlings splat under tire was wonderful), Do things casually, go do an Arkfall, and get a decent reward for the effort I put in. Now its Grind for a month for a chance at *insert random dlc bs here*

[3rdpig]

Not everyone who played Defiance did so for the challenge, nor wanted an increase in the challenge. Not everyone playing Defiance finds it fun to fight no matter "how much scrip it costs" them.

Some gamers, many who played this game, have different ideas of what fun is to them. That's what happened.

This man gets it. I've got 2 friends left in the game that I play with almost daily and both are ready to quit. It's not the casual, "run around shooting stuff while BSing with your buddies" that it used to be. Now it's having to "think, plan and execute", and that's not where they're at. They play this game to relax, not be frustrated and stressed.

I give them a week, two at the outside before they rage quit and never start the game again. And I'm guessing that type of player makes up around 75% of the population of Defiance.

[Bonehead]

This man gets it. I've got 2 friends left in the game that I play with almost daily and both are ready to quit. It's not the casual, "run around shooting stuff while BSing with your buddies" that it used to be. Now it's having to "think, plan and execute", and that's not where they're at. They play this game to relax, not be frustrated and stressed.

I give them a week, two at the outside before they rage quit and never start the game again. And I'm guessing that type of player makes up around 75% of the population of Defiance.

The trouble with that (I agree btw) is that there is no way in hell those players can be replaced with new ones due to a 65 metascore and poor word of mouth.