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    Combat Tactics in the New Age

    I just wanted to start a thread that focused on player experience and combat tactics that are actually working in what is now the new age of Defiance. I am a casual mid ego player somewhere in the mid 2400's. I have played since day 1 and I am a season pass holder, a fact that I have mixed feelings about. Feelings that I see shared in all of the posts that have been put out since the dlc 5 dropped, but there hasn't been too much in the way of constructive conversations about how to survive and win. I could be wrong but from what I have seen a lot of good discussions are derailed by trolls.
    I came a cross a fairly effective tactic last night at Sutro Tower in San Fran. 2 players, threat lvl 8, unsure of what his ego was but like I said I am a 2400. We weren't in a group so we didn't have perfect timing on all of our attacks but what worked was this. I would use my samurai sword (blu), activate blur( with all the perks that increase melee damage and heath), and melee stim. Thats when I would tank it and go to town wailing away at the Dark Matter 1 at a time in groups no bigger than 3. Any more than that and it can get messy. Meanwhile the other player would drill the same trooper with his light machine-gun. This works with regular troopers, elite troopers, and snipers because the sword hit knocks them back and keeps them from firing. Iy doesn't work as well on Monitors because of their spin kick move, it will make you dead. From previous fights I have also seen this work with 99r's and Raiders but if you try it on hell bugs you will die, a lot. Speaking of which, overall fighting this way kept our deaths in the single digits for each of us, which was nice. Could have been less probably if we had another player with a bmg.

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    Huh pretty interesting I agree that its nice to have a thread about combat tactics especially now this might be of some help for others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Psycho View Post
    I just wanted to start a thread that focused on player experience and combat tactics that are actually working in what is now the new age of Defiance. I am a casual mid ego player somewhere in the mid 2400's.

    I have played since day 1 and I am a season pass holder, a fact that I have mixed feelings about. Feelings that I see shared in all of the posts that have been put out since the dlc 5 dropped, but there hasn't been too much in the way of constructive conversations about how to survive and win. I could be wrong but from what I have seen a lot of good discussions are derailed by trolls.

    I came a cross a fairly effective tactic last night at Sutro Tower in San Fran. 2 players, threat lvl 8, unsure of what his ego was but like I said I am a 2400. We weren't in a group so we didn't have perfect timing on all of our attacks but what worked was this. I would use my samurai sword (blu), activate blur( with all the perks that increase melee damage and heath), and melee stim. Thats when I would tank it and go to town wailing away at the Dark Matter 1 at a time in groups no bigger than 3. Any more than that and it can get messy.
    Meanwhile the other player would drill the same trooper with his light machine-gun. This works with regular troopers, elite troopers, and snipers because the sword hit knocks them back and keeps them from firing. Iy doesn't work as well on Monitors because of their spin kick move, it will make you dead. From previous fights I have also seen this work with 99r's and Raiders but if you try it on hell bugs you will die, a lot. Speaking of which, overall fighting this way kept our deaths in the single digits for each of us, which was nice.
    Could have been less probably if we had another player with a bmg.
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    I was able to do this mission last night with one other arkhunter, as well. After all the glowy clicking, we ended up on the roof of the taller of the buildings (where there's an ammo cache) and patiently wore them down. The usual grindfest (more than a dozen perfect headshots from a very good sniper rifle to kill a minion? Yeah, that's "fun"), and the occasional jump downstairs to pick off enemies that were directly below us in the building, but we eventually beat it, and I don't think either of us died.

    But it also hammers home the realization that the game has become a dreadful bore...
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    Yeah man i get the feeling. Yesterday 2 guys tried to intimidate me in a real life situation, in the beggining TL was around 4, they came at me talking dirty and in a menacing way, i would say that TL was around 7 at that particular time.
    Things were escalating, TL was at 9 in this particular time and while i was calmly explaining there was no need to go that way, they started stepping back, always cocky but stepping back, don`t know why really because i`m such a nice guy and a very very cool and relaxed person...


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    It's good to hear a strategy that works. I'll be trying out my sword for sure - before DLC dropped I was trying to get good with blur loadout. Fun but tough for me!

    The bummer is, why did they reduce the useful weapons to only a very few, making all the others pretty much trash?

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    One thing that has been working for me is running with an LMG (poopshoes), AR (fire) and my grenade is electric.

    Start by taking the armor away with the LMG (this needs to be done first so that your other attacks are not reduced)....if the enemy has a shield toss the grenade and then switch to the AR and unload. It isn't perfect.....but so far handles most enemies pretty well.


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    The problem is with trying to figure out tactics at this point is that it's not really going to do any good long term. There are just too many broken points with the game right now that it just doesn't make sense to play. What good are tactics in a Volge Siege or Arkbreak when you are constantly spawn-camped. The only real tactic is to map out and go play something else.

    The talk of tactics will be more helpful once the problems get sorted out and we see what kind of "balance" Trion has in store for the game from now on. Essentially, the best tactic right now is: BioWeapon followed by Electric/Radiation, and finished with Pyro. Don't forget a lot of running around in the mean time, and using high EGO level players as Meat Shields (i.e. Tanks) if you are low level EGO.

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    thanks Combo Breaker. every time I tried to adjust the format in the preview it would just revert back to the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dramaQkarri View Post
    It's good to hear a strategy that works. I'll be trying out my sword for sure - before DLC dropped I was trying to get good with blur loadout. Fun but tough for me!

    The bummer is, why did they reduce the useful weapons to only a very few, making all the others pretty much trash?
    Ummmm because grenades?
    1.05 shotgun mag boost? REALLY?
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