Let's post some good stuff about Defiance

[Atticus Batman]

I can finally get my 5000 cloaked sniper kills more easily now in Mount Tam.

You could also get them in the Matron's nest Gs Arena. just snipe the babies!

[Atticus Batman]

I'll have to try that. Do you still need to group up to have a chance at gold?

Some are soloable. I got most in a duo. The only pain still being Ridgcrest mines.

[Manstan]

Maturity is a frame of mind, not an age.

[Mordresh]

We can help new Arkhunters get a headstart. I jump to Earth Republic Camp and give away Oranges and Grapes that I am not going to use to new Arkhunters and "clue them in" on what they have ahead of them

I wish more people would do this, so far my in-game experience hasn't been to helpful on the European realm. That cannot be said about the forums here though, quite helpful people here.

It's part of the games excitement though, but the initial learning curve is a bit steep if you want to know what you are doing and make informed choices. Especially also because there is a lot of older information available that are is applicable anymore. Here I was reading about how weapons stop granting XP once mastered, apparently now an obsolete system with the introduction of EGO levels on weapons, etc.

I would also love some guide explaining all the weapon types, what their pro's & con's are.
I know some people might state "just play the game", true, but for the moments where you cannot play reading up on things and getting to know the game is part of the charm/appeal for these type of games.

[Mordresh]

thread hijack = wouldn´t it be nice if the weapon can get EGO lvls by using it like the mastered bar will reset itself and EGO will go up by 50 or something.

Actually as a new player I thought the XP bar on the weapons, thus mastering it, would increase your efficiency with that specific weapon, next to you weapon skill level and it's progression and benefits. Wouldnt that be cool, sort of leveling a weapon for better damage?

But after finding out this was an artificial limitation to how long the weapon grants experience to you weapon skill I quickly realized they might have better removed the milestone term "mastered" to "useless". Because that is what is was not ? Once mastered, no skill xp anymore, I don't see any "mastering" in that. Of course that's obsolete now, from my limited perspective as a new player this change is for the better.

[Mordresh]

Besides if you actually payed attention, you would realize that Dis is just lashing out in anger at what Trion has done to the game...

Yep, and while lashing a lot of elements are presumptions based on thin air. There is a place for criticism, and by the sound of it this patch/dlc is controversial and a lot of people are not happy about the changes so they need to voice their opinion. But this should be done based on facts that are substantiated, not spreading wild accusations on items such as target market and the number of kids with credit cards playing this game, do you or Dis have any figures on that ? Being pissed of at a patch or DLC is not a free card to state such fantasized things.

[TANKballs]

I did corporate side for about 13 years and am now freelance. No, I never worked in the video-game industry -- I have one client in a related field. That said, it's against the law to target children to consume a product that they are restricted from (the "M" rating prevents this).

Took a break from studying for finals to peek at the threads and....what?! You "did corporate side" marketing? Meaning what? You didn't work for a non-profit or government entity?

"[I]t's against the law to target children to consume a product they are restricted from..." Which law? Federal? State? Furthermore, if such laws exist, how high of a burden does the Plaintiff have to prove that specific marketing tactics are "targeting children?" It took quite a while for cartoon Joe-Camel to get yanked... Are the directors and producers of Twilight about to get sued for portraying high-school children biting each other in a favorable light (i.e., marketing battery)?

There is also a very distinct difference from "restricted from purchasing" and "illegal to possess." Have you ever heard of an arrest for a child violating a restriction? Are you arguing that a 15 year old found in possession of Modern Warfare would be subject to criminal penalties or fines?

The "M" rating's purpose is not to prevent anything. It is to afford companies the discretionary power to discriminate against minors trying to purchase certain products that non-governmental third parties have deemed unsuitable.

That being said... I appreciate the effort the original developers of Defiance made to create a third-person shooter with a diverse and interactive open-world layout. I appreciate the players I have met along the way and the way they have influenced my understanding of the game.

[PTR47]

Took a break from studying for finals to peek at the threads and....what?! You "did corporate side" marketing? Meaning what? You didn't work for a non-profit or government entity?

"Corporate side" is generally taken to mean not working in an agency.

"[I]t's against the law to target children to consume a product they are restricted from..." Which law? Federal? State?

I'm sure you can google this.

Look, with all due respect, I posted in this thread in the friendliest way I could muster to say that I was happy and excited about the state of the game. For some unknown reason, Atticus decided he wanted to stomp all over that (and then play the victim card). I just came here for some friendly chit-chat and maybe some math and was argued with.

You guys seem to just want to debate with people. I have no desire to do that. Good day.

[Quebra Regra]

I'm not even sure where we are with patches right now. Things observed last night:

1. Kenn Farms hulkers seemed to hang around longer to be killed.
2. kill shot on major enemies seem much easier to achieve (DM monitor, hulkers, etc.).
3. more ark forge seems to be dropping in tier2 boxes... got 2 50's last night. could be anecdotal?

what doesn't seem right are the disconnects, car despawns, and white/green loot drops from top tier enemies.

[Zippy McPinhead]

Yes I have been seeing much more car despawns in the last couple of days too.

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